If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

Lursa said:

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It must be one of those unfunny jokes.

cpwill said:

Um. No. They don't, actually, have that kind of lift capacity.. Fleets of C-17's are expensive

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Haliburton has 80,000 employees in 140 different countries if you bothered to learn anything about the company. They supplied ancillary services to the armed forces in Iraq during the war. They are more than capable and have more than that kind of capacity. We are only sending three thousand soldiers to do God knows what. Our military has more than enough military work to do.

They'll be doing military work as they usually do.

"United States will leverage the unique capabilities of the U.S. military and broader uniformed services to help bring the epidemic under control. These efforts will entail command and control, logistics expertise, training, and engineering support.

U.S. Africa Command will set up a Joint Force Command headquartered in Monrovia, Liberia, to provide regional command and control support to U.S. military activities and facilitate coordination with U.S. government and international relief efforts. A general from U.S. Army Africa, the Army component of U.S. Africa Command, will lead this effort, which will involve an estimated 3,000 U.S. forces.
U.S. Africa Command will establish a regional intermediate staging base (ISB) to facilitate and expedite the transportation of equipment, supplies and personnel. Of the U.S. forces taking part in this response, many will be stationed at the ISB.
Command engineers will build additional Ebola Treatment Units in affected areas, and the U.S. Government will help recruit and organize medical personnel to staff them.
Additionally, the Command will establish a site to train up to 500 health care providers per week, enabling healthcare workers to safely provide direct medical care to patients.
The United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is preparing to deploy 65 Commissioned Corps officers to Liberia to manage and staff a previously announced Department of Defense (DoD) hospital to care for healthcare workers who become ill. The deployment roster will consist of administrators, clinicians, and support staff. ... "

Can the U.S. Army degrade and destroy Ebola? - The Week

DaveFagan said:

One of us is having delusions. I'm suggesting they will send 3,000 grunts and you are implying that they will send the best and brightest. One of us is wrong.

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Hey, look who's showing up?

On Saturday, a handful of troops from the Navy's 133rd Mobile Construction Battalion led a bulldozer through thigh-high grass outside Liberia's main airport, bottles of hand sanitizer dangling from their belt loops...



So, which one of us was delusional about sending a regiment of Infantry to fight Ebola?

sawdust said:

Haliburton has 80,000 employees in 140 different countries if you bothered to learn anything about the company. They supplied ancillary services to the armed forces in Iraq during the war. They are more than capable and have more than that kind of capacity. We are only sending three thousand soldiers to do God knows what. Our military has more than enough military work to do.

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:shrug: sure, and most of those employees overseas are dependent upon DOD logistics. They do not have the same lift capacity.

Look man, one of us in this conversation has actually been both in the active duty military and a military contractor. I'm not against contracting this sort of thing out - but you have to have realistic expectations. No one, but no one, has the projection capability of the US Defense Department.

cpwill said:

Hey, look who's showing up?

On Saturday, a handful of troops from the Navy's 133rd Mobile Construction Battalion led a bulldozer through thigh-high grass outside Liberia's main airport, bottles of hand sanitizer dangling from their belt loops...

So, which one of us was delusional about sending a regiment of Infantry to fight Ebola?

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Navy huh? So what is the Navy doing wearing Air Force stripes on their sleeves? The first gal behind the first guy one can make out the U.S. Air Force tag above her left pocket. I came darn close to saying above her left boob, but didn't. Trying to stay half way PC.

Perotista said:

Navy huh? So what is the Navy doing wearing Air Force stripes on their sleeves? The first gal behind the first guy one can make out the U.S. Air Force tag above her left pocket. I came darn close to saying above her left boob, but didn't. Trying to stay half way PC.

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Interesting that this "handful" group appears to be predominately women, though....is that usual for a Construction Battalion?

polgara said:

Interesting that this "handful" group appears to be predominately women, though....is that usual for a Construction Battalion?

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A Navy Construction Battalion does not have any Air Force. That is what I was getting at. Looking at the picture that is all I see is Air Force. I would imagine nowadays a Navy Construction Battalion would have a few women. But the picture leaves me wondering if these Air Force Women aren't medical personnel.

Perotista said:

Navy huh? So what is the Navy doing wearing Air Force stripes on their sleeves? The first gal behind the first guy one can make out the U.S. Air Force tag above her left pocket. I came darn close to saying above her left boob, but didn't. Trying to stay half way PC.

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The article has Naval and Airforce Personnel, with AFRICOM serving as the parent HQ element, although they've spun off a subordinate JTF. Calling it "Operation Unified Assistance".

cpwill said:

The article has Naval and Airforce Personnel, with AFRICOM serving as the parent HQ element, although they've spun off a subordinate JTF. Calling it "Operation Unified Assistance".

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Okay, but the article said Navy's 133rd Mobile Construction right above the picture of all those Air Force types getting off.

Perotista said:

Okay, but the article said Navy's 133rd Mobile Construction right above the picture of all those Air Force types getting off.

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:shrug: astonishingly, the same article had a picture of Air Force personnel and an interview with navy engineers. The point was only that Fagan was wrong when he said we would be sending a regiment of infantry.

Perotista said:

A Navy Construction Battalion does not have any Air Force. That is what I was getting at. Looking at the picture that is all I see is Air Force. I would imagine nowadays a Navy Construction Battalion would have a few women. But the picture leaves me wondering if these Air Force Women aren't medical personnel.

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I'm wondering why medical personnel is a bad thing to be if Ebola is the reason they're there. Why call them Construction people? This entire thing is unusual....

cpwill said:

Hey, look who's showing up?

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When did the Air Force started requiring airmen and airchicks to have bar codes on their heads.

Isn't that what the guy in the orange vest doing, reading bar codes ?

APACHERAT said:

When did the Air Force started requiring airmen and airchicks to have bar codes on their heads.

Isn't that what the guy in the orange vest doing, reading bar codes ?

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Greetings, APACHERAT. :2wave:

Thanks for asking that question...I was about to ask what the orange vest guy was doing, since it looked like what the workers in grocery stores do when checking shelves....

APACHERAT said:

When did the Air Force started requiring airmen and airchicks to have bar codes on their heads.

Isn't that what the guy in the orange vest doing, reading bar codes ?

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Good question. It may be a chip scanner. But why would the DOD permit civilian and/or foreign nationals reading/recording any information concerning US military personnel? There has to be a logical explanation of what that guy is doing.

cpwill said:

:shrug: astonishingly, the same article had a picture of Air Force personnel and an interview with navy engineers. The point was only that Fagan was wrong when he said we would be sending a regiment of infantry.

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LOL, okay. Most of those going to Africa will be medical personnel. There may be some infantry to provide security. But everything done over there will be under the medical personnel direction. I just thought it was funny with Navy construction battalion above a picture of a bunch of Air Force folks.

polgara said:

Greetings, APACHERAT. :2wave:

Thanks for asking that question...I was about to ask what the orange vest guy was doing, since it looked like what the workers in grocery stores do when checking shelves....

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That's what it looks like.

I noticed the the European militaries aren't ordering their service members to go to Africa to fight Ebola, they are asking for volunteers.

APACHERAT said:

When did the Air Force started requiring airmen and airchicks to have bar codes on their heads.

Isn't that what the guy in the orange vest doing, reading bar codes ?

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He's checking body temperatures. Everyone coming in and out get's checked, as high fever is (apparently) one of the early signs of the virus.

Perotista said:

LOL, okay. Most of those going to Africa will be medical personnel. There may be some infantry to provide security. But everything done over there will be under the medical personnel direction. I just thought it was funny with Navy construction battalion above a picture of a bunch of Air Force folks.

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I remember when Navy Sea Bees were able to provide their own security and they were good at it. Probably why they were known as the "Fighting Sea Bees."

I remember back in 69 when I was going through 2nd ITR at Pendleton there was about 300 Navy CB's going through individual infantry training.

cpwill said:

He's checking body temperatures. Everyone coming in and out get's checked, as high fever is (apparently) one of the early signs of the virus.

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Makes sense since the Africans are now saying that the Ebola virus was developed by the USA to be used in germ warfare.

They said the same thing about AIDS.

APACHERAT said:

Makes sense since the Africans are now saying that the Ebola virus was developed by the USA to be used in germ warfare.

They said the same thing about AIDS.

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Yeah - the biggest newspaper in liberia is spreading that crap. :roll: Between that and attacking aid workers, there are going to be a lot of social enablers of this disease. We are nowhere even near the inflection point, I think.

APACHERAT said:

I remember when Navy Sea Bees were able to provide their own security and they were good at it. Probably why they were known as the "Fighting Sea Bees."

I remember back in 69 when I was going through 2nd ITR at Pendleton there was about 300 Navy CB's going through individual infantry training.

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The Seabees were outstanding. I haven't heard much of them lately. I wonder if they are still around. They were during Desert Storm. It does seem that every other years there is an reorganization of some sort or another.

cpwill said:

Yeah - the biggest newspaper in liberia is spreading that crap. :roll: Between that and attacking aid workers, there are going to be a lot of social enablers of this disease. We are nowhere even near the inflection point, I think.

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Greetings, cpwill. :2wave:

Are they suggesting that we are there to kill more of them faster, or that it's guilty conscience on our part to try to help them fight what we supposedly gave them in the first place, since we're apparently immune to Ebola? This is getting stranger by the day..... :shock:

polgara said:

Greetings, cpwill. :2wave:

Are they suggesting that we are there to kill more of them faster, or that it's guilty conscience on our part to try to help them fight what we supposedly gave them in the first place, since we're apparently immune to Ebola? This is getting stranger by the day..... :shock:

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It's part of our grand design to wipe out the African Race, and also a military test gone awry :roll: kinda dumb, but nobody ever said that the anti-American conspiratists had to be consistent...

cpwill said:

It's part of our grand design to wipe out the African Race, and also a military test gone awry :roll: kinda dumb, but nobody ever said that the anti-American conspiratists had to be consistent...

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Or even to make sense, apparently. :shock: