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If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

DA60 said:
Hey, come on now my friend.

He is entitled to his opinion.

Just because he does know if he wants to ship to a foreign country to offer assistance to non-Americans that are suffering from a disease with a roughly 70% mortality rate...I don't think that makes him a coward.

I think that makes him human.

I often disagree with him and agree with you, but I don't think helping non-American, Ebola victims in Africa is what most Americans signed up for when they entered their recruitment office.

If it was a volunteer-only assignment, I am not sure what I would do.

But either way, I would be afraid of contracting the illness.

I hope that does not make me a coward in your eyes - as I have respect for you - but there it is.
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But not afraid of being shot or blown up in a war zone?

The ignorance I'm seeing in this thread is mind-boggling. People just willfully ignore reality about a disease AND military deployment? Jeebus.
 
Lursa said:
We could but that actually endangers us more.
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What you speak is madness, Lursa. We're all sick of your madness.
 
Lursa said:
They are not 'fighting a virus'. I hope you were being facetious when you wrote that...that you dont actually believe that literally?
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Doctors and scientists fight viruses. Soldiers kill people and break things. They are the Marine corp, not the peace corps. Sending the military in to do construction work is not their function either. I'm not opposed to trying to find a cure or stop the spread of ebola but the military is not trained to do either.
 
sawdust said:
Doctors and scientists fight viruses. Soldiers kill people and break things. They are the Marine corp, not the peace corps. Sending the military in to do construction work is not their function either. I'm not opposed to trying to find a cure or stop the spread of ebola but the military is not trained to do either.
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Our troops have on other occasions done construction, transported supplies, and acted as security for medical aid and food distribution. Just to name a few.

And they are indeed trained to do all these things.
 
Lursa said:
Our troops have on other occasions done construction, transported supplies, and acted as security for medical aid and food distribution. Just to name a few.

And they are indeed trained to do all these things.
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Our troops have done what is required of them in war zones. They are not supposed to be a social welfare organization. I repeat, it's important to limit the ebola outbreak. There are non military organizations better suited to do the work.
 
Montecresto said:
cpwill said:
if by "the actual objective, measurable reality" you mean "your opinion", then yes, yes it is
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Yes, I do!
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:shrug: well, okay. Once you give me that I am objectively correct, I'll admit, I don't really have anywhere to go from there.
 
sawdust said:
Our troops have done what is required of them in war zones. They are not supposed to be a social welfare organization. I repeat, it's important to limit the ebola outbreak. There are non military organizations better suited to do the work.
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Who has the lift capacity?
 
sawdust said:
Our troops have done what is required of them in war zones. They are not supposed to be a social welfare organization. I repeat, it's important to limit the ebola outbreak. There are non military organizations better suited to do the work.
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They are supposed to protect and defend our country. Which they will be doing if they can keep Ebola contained.

Were they supposed to rebuild Iraq? Deliver and protect relief supplies in the Sudan? Somalia?
 
Lursa said:
They are supposed to protect and defend our country. Which they will be doing if they can keep Ebola contained.

Were they supposed to rebuild Iraq? Deliver and protect relief supplies in the Sudan? Somalia?
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Exactly what can the military possibly do to contain ebola? I guess they could shoot anyone trying to leave the area. When they supply humanitarian aid it's generally done by air drop like recent drops in Iraq or under the auspises of the UN.
 
sawdust said:
Exactly what can the military possibly do to contain ebola? I guess they could shoot anyone trying to leave the area. When they supply humanitarian aid it's generally done by air drop like recent drops in Iraq or under the auspises of the UN.
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Are you not aware of the capabilities of security forces?

When there are airdrops, the people also need to be protected when those supplies are handed out. Again: more security to prevent rioting and to conduct things in an orderly fashion. We did this is the Sudan and Somalia. Otherwise people come in and steal it all for the black market. They guard convoys from similar 'pirates.'


And the more we *support the treatment of the people there* the less chance there is that the disease will spread. They dont have enough facilities for patients...so they are MOVING them elsewhere. Our troops will help build and/or protect those doing the building.

This is not rocket science.
 
shrubnose said:
The USA's military is an all volunteer force and everyone who joins takes an oath to obey orders.

Those who violate that oath pay a price.
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I think it's strange to say it's a volunteer military force and then say those that join have no say but to do what they're told.
 
Henrin said:
It's not so voluntary after you join though.
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That is 100% known to anyone signing up....and made clear as well when they sign their oath.

Are you claiming our troops are unintelligent?
 
Lursa said:
Are you not aware of the capabilities of security forces?

When there are airdrops, the people also need to be protected when those supplies are handed out. Again: more security to prevent rioting and to conduct things in an orderly fashion. We did this is the Sudan and Somalia. Otherwise people come in and steal it all for the black market. They guard convoys from similar 'pirates.'


And the more we *support the treatment of the people there* the less chance there is that the disease will spread. They dont have enough facilities for patients...so they are MOVING them elsewhere. Our troops will help build and/or protect those doing the building.

This is not rocket science.
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I'm well aware of the capability of our military, having served in it. We could send them to Guam and have them shovel it into the Pacific. We shouldn't have them do that either.
 
sawdust said:
I'm well aware of the capability of our military, having served in it. We could send them to Guam and have them shovel it into the Pacific. We shouldn't have them do that either.
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How would that protect and defend America?
 
sawdust said:
Lots of government subcontractors. Haliburton for one.
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Um. No. They don't, actually, have that kind of lift capacity.. Fleets of C-17's are expensive :)
 
sawdust said:
Exactly what can the military possibly do to contain ebola? I guess they could shoot anyone trying to leave the area. When they supply humanitarian aid it's generally done by air drop like recent drops in Iraq or under the auspises of the UN.
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:raises eyebrow: having been involved in a few HADR ops myself, I have to ask - do you have any idea what you are talking about, or are you literally just making stuff up as you go along?
 
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