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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.

    If you were ordered to go by the president, would you follow orders, or would you say no and face a dishonorable discharge?
    ....no.

    I was willing to go face down people who were actively trying to kill me. Why would the task of bringing aid to those who are suffering somehow make me any less willing to accept risk in the course of my duties?

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.

    If you were ordered to go by the president, would you follow orders, or would you say no and face a dishonorable discharge?
    Soldiers are not rocket scientists. They are trained/programmed/brainwashed/disciplined to follow orders and definitely not to think. The program works better with younger individuals. Often, a duty assignment like this would be all volunteers. They think they are going to help, but they also think they are going to help when they go to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. We didn't help Russia send humanitarian aid to Ukraine. We didn't send some additional doctors with the 125 Cuban doctors. We didn't help Assad in Syria fight ISIS. We didn't help Palestinians. I've seen so much duplicity from our government, I have real difficulty accepting, at face value, any of our actions. I don't see 3000 soldiers helping. I see 3000 sterile rooms helping. I see 3000 viles of ZMaxx helping. I see even one doctor helping. I see 3000 portable isolation units helping. Maybe I'm a little paranoid about government duplicity.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Soldiers are not rocket scientists
    Actually some are.

    They are trained/programmed/brainwashed/disciplined to follow orders and definitely not to think.
    My first platoon commander was a two-time Jeopardy champion. I had a conversation today with a MSgt about the Bayesian implications of crowd-sourcing complex problem sets that blew my mind. By and large, most of the smartest people I've met have been in the military.

    I don't see 3000 soldiers helping. I see 3000 sterile rooms helping. I see 3000 viles of ZMaxx helping. I see even one doctor helping. I see 3000 portable isolation units helping. Maybe I'm a little paranoid about government duplicity.
    yeah. because there are no medical personnel in the military.

    DOD assets are being called in it seems largely to provide lift for medical equipment, medicine, and food aid, and training for local medical workers.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Actually some are.



    My first platoon commander was a two-time Jeopardy champion. I had a conversation today with a MSgt about the Bayesian implications of crowd-sourcing complex problem sets that blew my mind. By and large, most of the smartest people I've met have been in the military.



    yeah. because there are no medical personnel in the military.

    DOD assets are being called in it seems largely to provide lift for medical equipment, medicine, and food aid, and training for local medical workers.
    One of us is having delusions. I'm suggesting they will send 3,000 grunts and you are implying that they will send the best and brightest. One of us is wrong.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Currently it pretty much requires contact with an infected person and their fluids to get Ebola. Our troops would probably be sent to protect medication and food supplies and to be peacekeepers. Not anymore dangerous than food and med drops into Somalia (not that those werent dangerous).

    However the question still needs to be answered by politicians facing a different reality: someday there will most likely be a highly infectious epidemic here in the US and troops and the Nat Guard will be expected to:

    --maintain quarantine lines in infected areas (contagion zones)
    --shoot fellow Americans that attempt to break thru quarantine lines
    --remain on post instead of going home to be with/protect their own families.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Of course, it'd be my job.

    And soldiers don't face chance of death going into some Middle Eastern battlefield? Danger is in the job description.

    Stop trying to be slick, OP.

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    Any soldier who refuses should be prosecuted.
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    I would do my duty, obviously.

    Anyone who refused such an order should be court martialed.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Fight" the virus how, exactly?
    Train medical workers, build medical facilities, etc

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    One of us is having delusions. I'm suggesting they will send 3,000 grunts and you are implying that they will send the best and brightest. One of us is wrong.
    Going by your past posting history I would say it is most likely you having delusions. Why in the hell would they send grunts other than enough to provide security. You need to lay off the conspiracy theory crap.
    What is funny is I have now worked in the private sector and the military for pretty equal time and not only have I not met any brainwashed people but over all I would say the quality of individual in the military is higher than outside.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.

    If you were ordered to go by the president, would you follow orders, or would you say no and face a dishonorable discharge?
    Oh dear gawd! Really? Does it matter where you're sent to die? Was it ok to die in the Iraqi desert for George Bush's lie in Iraq, but not ok to risk ones life to save lives in Africa?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Actually some are.



    My first platoon commander was a two-time Jeopardy champion. I had a conversation today with a MSgt about the Bayesian implications of crowd-sourcing complex problem sets that blew my mind. By and large, most of the smartest people I've met have been in the military.



    yeah. because there are no medical personnel in the military.

    DOD assets are being called in it seems largely to provide lift for medical equipment, medicine, and food aid, and training for local medical workers.
    Lol, most of the smartest people you've met have been in the military!!!! Small circles you walk.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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