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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.

    If you were ordered to go by the president, would you follow orders, or would you say no and face a dishonorable discharge?
    Better fighting ebola in Africa than fighting for who-knows-what in Iraq.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    To be fair, the survival rate for American victims so far has basically been 100%. The disease can be treated effectively with the right technology.

    It also isn't all that easy to catch. It's a blood borne pathogen, meaning that you have to come into contact with either infected bodily fluids, or contaminated food or water, to catch it. Most of our servicemen wouldn't be in contact with either, and those that were would be following much more thorough sanitation procedures than the locals.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Yet you didn't speak to what I said of the politicsw of wanting to use ACA funding, knowing I don't lie .
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    If the president is sending over the military I assume the funds would come out of DOD. But with the political atmosphere in D.C. at the moment all assumptions are off. I haven't had the TV on all day, been busy with other things so I don't know what FOX or any other station is saying about it. I have no problem with it and if I was still in, I would not hesitate to go or think anything about it.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    They are sending medical, construction and just a few security personnel.

    The mission, from what I've heard, is to build hospitals and clinics, train locals in medical procedures, and of course provide some basic security for our people (not an aggressive force).
    Sounds about like what I imagined. If they are sent they should go and not argue about it. A Taliban rifle is no less lethal than Ebola. Not sure why the OP was even raised.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.

    If you were ordered to go by the president, would you follow orders, or would you say no and face a dishonorable discharge?
    I would say something since it's not the job of the U.S. military to play "Peace Corps." Using the military for these humanitarian missions only downgrades the military combat readiness of the U.S. military.

    If I were ordered to wear the "blue helmet" I would refuse to wear the blue helmet on the grounds that it is an unlawful order. Court martial me. I seem to remember a soldier or Marine doing the same thing when President Clinton tried to order our soldiers to wear the blue helmet.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Crossing the line Nazi (for lack of a better description) kind of stuff. Executing people is probably way over the top but firing into a crowd with women and children or detonating a car with unknown occupants. I don't know the possibility's because I have never been in combat but I am sure there are situations that merit individual soldiers moral input.
    No member of the military is required to follow an illegal order. The UCMJ sets what an illegal order would be, to include breaking the various Conventions of War. So, no, a member of the military would not have to follow an order to fire into a crowd of women and children or use a car bomb as a weapon.

    Good question - with the parameters you added. It's less of a moral question as it would be a question of legality. Especially since what I said is also true, that many of the actions taken during combat could be seen as immoral by some people. That's why the military relies upon the UCMJ and the various Conventions on War to define and guide their actions, not morality.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Just because your media gives you the impression that nobody else is doing anything doesn't make it true. William Pooley the British nurse volunteer who got Ebola has recovered, and is planning to go back. Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors without Borders) is a world famous French based organisation treating Ebola sufferers. The rest of the world's reaction has been shambolic, The WHO understimated the size of the problem and everyone is running to catch up with the disease.
    The American aid is mostly going to Liberia, which was set up as a colony in Africa for freed slaves who wished to return "home" to go to, so there's a connection.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Sounds about like what I imagined. If they are sent they should go and not argue about it. A Taliban rifle is no less lethal than Ebola. Not sure why the OP was even raised.
    There's a knot of people in American society who are fussy about these kinds of "plague outbreaks." Same segment that obsesses over bad zombie fiction on Kindle.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I would say something since it's not the job of the U.S. military to play "Peace Corps." Using the military for these humanitarian missions only downgrades the military combat readiness of the U.S. military.

    If I were ordered to wear the "blue helmet" I would refuse to wear the blue helmet on the grounds that it is an unlawful order. Court martial me. I seem to remember a soldier or Marine doing the same thing when President Clinton tried to order our soldiers to wear the blue helmet.
    You would be court martialed and rightly so. I wore the blue beret (which I was given on my last day as a keepsake), but never the blue helmet. What this shows is a lack of understanding of the US and the UN. The US never wears the blue helmet and never comes under UN command.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    No member of the military is required to follow an illegal order. The UCMJ sets what an illegal order would be, to include breaking the various Conventions of War. So, no, a member of the military would not have to follow an order to fire into a crowd of women and children or use a car bomb as a weapon.

    Good question - with the parameters you added. It's less of a moral question as it would be a question of legality. Especially since what I said is also true, that many of the actions taken during combat could be seen as immoral by some people. That's why the military relies upon the UCMJ and the various Conventions on War to define and guide their actions, not morality.
    Good distinction. Legality... not morality. I will frame future questions with that in mind.
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