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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And that general's being stupid. Why? If we don't do what we can to stop it over there, (1) it WILL affect U.S. interests there - such as weakening governments that actually do work with us in killing terrorists in Africa, and (2) it's better to stop it there than having to try to stop it here. There's a very real possibility that this virus could mutate to where it is as transmissible as influenza is...and if that happens, it IS coming here. That's the nature of the mobility of the populations of the modern world.

    And if you really think the military wouldn't be used if a truly deadly pandemic strikes America, you've got a lot to learn.
    Besides the humanitarian aspect of this engagement that is positive.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I suppose you believe that it takes the DOD and American troops to go and fight a disease. In the first place, what you are talking about is the ability to pay for the work. It's not the DOD that carries the financial burden so the uniqueness of having soldiers at it's disposal is meaningless. The money comes from the general fund and the only question is who gets paid. My objection is that this kind of work is not within, or shouldn't be within the scope of the military. There are individuals who are actually trained to fight disease who would be a more rational choice than some nineteen year old kid who's been through basic training and AIT. For me, it's not who pays, or who has projection capacity. It's a question of who is the best fit to stop the pandemic. For a pandemic, it's not soldiers unless they are to enforce a quarantine. The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things, not to be a social welfare organization. If we are going to throw bodies at a problem, throw the appropriate bodies.
    How many times do you have to be told they are not 'fighting' the medical aspects of the disease?

    And that they are perfectly capable and trained to do security, transporatation, and construction?

    The purpose of the military is to protect & defend America and American interests.

    Not "kill people and break things." That is a very ignorant statement and demeaning to our military.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    You follow orders.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How many times do you have to be told they are not 'fighting' the medical aspects of the disease?

    And that they are perfectly capable and trained to do security, transporatation, and construction?

    The purpose of the military is to protect & defend America and American interests.

    Not "kill people and break things." That is a very ignorant statement and demeaning to our military.
    You needn't tell me anything because you don't seem to understand the issue here. We are sending people there with the wrong skill set. I've been in our military and I have a good grasp of it's purpose. It's purpose is not to be an international construction company. In basic they don't train with a hawk and trowel, they use rifles.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    You needn't tell me anything because you don't seem to understand the issue here. We are sending people there with the wrong skill set. I've been in our military and I have a good grasp of it's purpose. It's purpose is not to be an international construction company. In basic they don't train with a hawk and trowel, they use rifles.
    And yet, they do construction, security, etc all the time in Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. So what is your point again? They do indeed have the skills to perform these duties.

    How do they have the 'wrong' skill set to set up hospitals, protect medical personel and supply shipments? They seem to have done quite well doing that elsewhere.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Smart enough assessment. Which means we either have morons, both parties, pushing bad policy, or we have leaders, both parties, who view it somehow advantageous to "US interests" to hold some parts of the world down.
    Cpwill's Razor is that when you are looking at destructive consequences of governance, and the options before you are deliberate, competent, malice or incompetent perhaps originally-well-intended bumbling; it's incompetence.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Cpwill's Razor is that when you are looking at destructive consequences of governance, and the options before you are deliberate, competent, malice or incompetent perhaps originally-well-intended bumbling; it's incompetence.
    Not quite sure what you mean with that CP.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    I would not refuse to do my duty and take every precaution possible to protect myself form the virus. If everyone refused to do anything it would become a much bigger problem much faster.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not quite sure what you mean with that CP.
    It means we have morons with both parties pushing bad policy when it comes to foreign aid.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.

    If you were ordered to go by the president, would you follow orders, or would you say no and face a dishonorable discharge?
    It's been a long time since I was a soldier. I would obey the order and go.

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