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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    No question about it - do my duty.

    Anyone that refuses to go should be court martialed.

    I've been given some pretty hard orders to follow in my carreer, but never thought twice about following them to the letter.
    While I am sure you were never given illegal orders... surely soldiers think about the morality of orders if they are questionable?
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Fight" the virus how, exactly?[/I]
    They have guns.... they use them.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They have guns.... they use them.
    That's the question. Is she talking about some kind of military "purge" of infected persons like you might see in a Hollywood movie, or simply being deployed to an area where the virus is prevalent?

    I'd have some pretty serious misgivings about situation A), but I couldn't imagine any duty minded service member putting up too much of a fuss about B).

    Deploying to dangerous areas is simply part of the job.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    While I am sure you were never given illegal orders... surely soldiers think about the morality of orders if they are questionable?
    Morality? In what way? Most actions taken by a member of the military in a combat situation could be defined as immoral by someone.
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Now a GOP congressman is asking for money from the ACA fund for ebola.

    After Boehner's cheap shot at Obama for waiting too long.

    Never mind the quarter billion Obama has already spent on ebola.

    As FOX plays politics with our troops going to Liberia.

    And you wonder why I watch FOX right now with the "Special Report",
    and then report their treachory Fair, Balanced and Unafraid .
    If the president is sending over the military I assume the funds would come out of DOD. But with the political atmosphere in D.C. at the moment all assumptions are off. I haven't had the TV on all day, been busy with other things so I don't know what FOX or any other station is saying about it. I have no problem with it and if I was still in, I would not hesitate to go or think anything about it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I guess dropping off medication is not enough, we now have to send our troops to face possible death.
    Because troops shouldn't be sent anywhere they face possible death?

    Strangely just "dropping off medication" isn't enough when facing a major pandemic across several very poor countries. Given that many of the military personnel being sent are likely to be medical professionals I doubt they'd have an issue and since the proposal seems to be based around providing training and logistics, I doubt they'd be in places of greatest risk anyway. Regardless, they'll be at much less risk that all of the civilians they'd be seeking to help.

    And all of that before you even start thinking about refusing legal orders.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I doubt they are just sending soldiers to stand around with their guns... they are sending soldiers that are trained or prepared for such a crisis.
    They are sending medical, construction and just a few security personnel.

    The mission, from what I've heard, is to build hospitals and clinics, train locals in medical procedures, and of course provide some basic security for our people (not an aggressive force).
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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    I don't know why the poll question didn't show, ugh.

    It's my understanding that half of the people who get EBola die. People who have used every precaution still ended up getting it. I just don't understand why it's always us that gets involved. Why don't other countries ever offer to help? I just don't have a good feeling about this. Do I feel for these people? Yes I do. Do I feel like we already have our hands in multiple pots? Yes!

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I don't know why the poll question didn't show, ugh.

    It's my understanding that half of the people who get EBola die. People who have used every precaution still ended up getting it. I just don't understand why it's always us that gets involved. Why don't other countries ever offer to help? I just don't have a good feeling about this. Do I feel for these people? Yes I do. Do I feel like we already have our hands in multiple pots? Yes!
    To be fair, the survival rate for American victims so far has basically been 100%. The disease can be treated effectively with the right technology.

    It also isn't all that easy to catch. It's a blood borne pathogen, meaning that you have to come into contact with either infected bodily fluids, or contaminated food or water, to catch it. Most of our servicemen wouldn't be in contact with either, and those that were would be following much more thorough sanitation procedures than the locals.

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    Re: If you were military would you refuse to "fight" the Ebola virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Morality? In what way? Most actions taken by a member of the military in a combat situation could be defined as immoral by someone.
    Crossing the line Nazi (for lack of a better description) kind of stuff. Executing people is probably way over the top but firing into a crowd with women and children or detonating a car with unknown occupants. I don't know the possibility's because I have never been in combat but I am sure there are situations that merit individual soldiers moral input.
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