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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Because residents of DC don't have representation in Congress.
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    How about we not outlaw people from living in certain areas of the country and just make DC a state? Why is that such a big deal to you?
    And they shouldn't, because they don't live in a state.

    The DC was created to be the seat of the government, case closed. Its not intended to be a state, so if you want to live in one of the United States, then live in one.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    So? Is Congress going to cease being functional if DC residents don't get to vote for its members?
    1. Congress is already dysfunctional. So them "ceasing to be functional" is not really much of a worry to me.

    2. The problem is that residents of DC are taxed without proper representation in Congress. That's the #1 reason why the revolutionary war happened, Great Britain was taxing the colonists when they didn't have proper representation in Parliament. Now we're doing the same thing to residents of DC.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    And they shouldn't, because they don't live in a state.
    Hence the problem.

    The DC was created to be the seat of the government, case closed.
    What about granting DC statehood will make it cease to be the seat of the government?

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    DC residents are taxed without representation in Congress. The same type of situation, in fact, that started the revolutionary war. I say yes, turn DC into the 51st state so that the 645,000 DC residents actually have representation in their federal government.
    The residents are free to move elsewhere, because the Constitution gives the Congress explicit control over DC.
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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    1. Congress is already dysfunctional. So them "ceasing to be functional" is not really much of a worry to me.

    2. The problem is that residents of DC are taxed without proper representation in Congress. That's the #1 reason why the revolutionary war happened, Great Britain was taxing the colonists when they didn't have proper representation in Parliament. Now we're doing the same thing to residents of DC.
    1. I meant more so than it already is.

    2. Is the lack of voting powers preventing the collection of taxes, is it making people unwilling to pay taxes, has anyone threatened revolt? If not what's the problem? If you're claiming injustice, then please explain your moral reasoning, step by step.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post

    What about granting DC statehood will make it cease to be the seat of the government?
    Because the Constitution says it needs to be a District, created from the cession of the states.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Why is this change necessary?
    Because the citizens who reside in DC do not have an actual voice in congress.


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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Is the lack of voting powers preventing the collection of taxes, is it making people unwilling to pay taxes, has anyone threatened revolt? If not what's the problem? If you're claiming injustice, then please explain your moral reasoning, step by step.
    Taxation without representation defeats the whole purpose of the democratic republic our founders set up. Residents of DC pay taxes to the federal government and are forced to abide by the laws they write, yet are not able to have a say in either. At that point we might as well scrap the whole "democratic republic" idea and turn our country into a parliamentary monarchy or an oligarchy.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because the citizens who reside in DC do not have an actual voice in congress.
    Already established that they gave up those rights when the DC was formed.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    For some background....

    Much of the initial reasoning against the capital being held in an explicit state is that many of the first generation (often times, your small government, southern types) considered it dangerous for that state to have the ability to shape national policy for its own interests. Perhaps some of it was also a southern distrust of the (at the time) Northern industrial dominance of the early American independence effort in politics, which lead to wanting a more southern, isolated capital.
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