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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Still didnt explain how "I hate the Constitution". Its simple you made a baseless accusation.
    Read your mocking of someone thinking socialists wanting to destroy America, while you promote the idea of turning Washington in a state.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because the citizens who reside in DC do not have an actual voice in congress.
    So?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Taxation without representation defeats the whole purpose of the democratic republic our founders set up. Residents of DC pay taxes to the federal government and are forced to abide by the laws they write, yet are not able to have a say in either. At that point we might as well scrap the whole "democratic republic" idea and turn our country into a parliamentary monarchy or an oligarchy.
    I'd ask you to actively show why a democratic system is intrinsically obligatory, but I'll instead try a direct refutation.

    Should non-voters (minors, incompetents, felons, foreigners, etc.) be bound to pay taxes and obey the laws?

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Read your mocking of someone thinking socialists wanting to destroy America,
    Which is another baseless accusation

    while you promote the idea of turning Washington in a state.
    Still doesnt explain your accusation of: "I hate the Constitution".


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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    So?
    "No taxation without representation"


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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Dc is already dysfunctional. No need to further institutionalize that. They aren't worthy of statehood.
    Quote Originally Posted by dogtowner View Post
    Theyre all on the govt teet so they shouldnt have representation anyway
    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Washington DC is so awful due to the residents of the city---who have elected leaders that share their typical moral values of smoking and sniffing coke, defending or participating in street gangs and various other criminal pursuits.

    DC is only going to go downhill---maybe not as bad as Sodom or Gomorrah, but with a city so controlled by morally debased residents---it will be hard to change.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Until the morons stop electing a coke head to public office they don't deserve a vote in congress.
    I expect rabid denial, but reading between the lines of some of the responses shows that the opposition is largely due to fear of more representation of Democrats and/or non-whites. There is also the usual knee-jerk opposition to any change.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 09-16-14 at 02:49 PM.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "No taxation without representation"
    Should children who make money, buy things (and thus pay sales tax), or own property have to pay taxes?

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "No taxation without representation"
    Great slogan, but it has no constitutional basis at all.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Roll your eyes if you want, but I really don't want more democratic congressmen or another state like Maryland.
    Your honesty is appreciated. Your willingness to disregard fairness for partisan advantage is not.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Your honesty is appreciated. Your willingness to disregard fairness for partisan advantage is not.
    Well if democrats and republicans alike would stop attacking my freedom I would be more inclined to change my view on the topic.

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    Re: Should DC Become the 51st State?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How about a different spin: The Fed's use eminent domain and claim a portion of DC's land. Everyone who's unfortunate enough to be affected must live outside of the newly created lines. The land left over is equally distributed to the bordering states. No one in DC proper now can "live" there. No businesses can operate in DC proper - in other words remove any ability for non government workers to live or do business of any kind. Hotels will not operate in this newly drawn area either - hotels must operate outside of the DC lines.

    This solves lots of problems - no taxes inside DC so no taxation without representation. No new 51'st state required - DC stays intact albeit smaller. Increase of taxes to the surrounding states as more people and businesses will be moved into them given the new state lines.
    I don't know that emminent domain is necessary or wise, but otherwise that seems like a reasonable alternative to statehood that should be broadly accepted except for those seeking to disenfrachise minorities and Democrats.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 09-16-14 at 03:08 PM.

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