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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the hub-bub over Benghazi has mostly been limited the partisans and the nerds (among whom I would count our happy selves). For the broader electorate, perhaps a single headline every six to twelve months has occupied their attention for about 15 seconds apiece. There is growth still for this, especially if Hillary tries to make "Competence" one of the central themes of her candidacy.

    I agree that the effect is going to be diminished from that of the Swift Boat Veterans - I am arguing that the effects would be of a similar type (to undermine the claim that a candidate wishes to make about themselves via a source of similar ability to speak credibly to that issue), not necessarily of a similar level of shock. But consider (for example) the families. Hillary lied to their face about the attack, and then asked what difference it made. I would guess that probably angered some of them. Imagine the simplicity and emotional hammer of an ad centered around a grieving couple of parents saying, well, it matters to them...

    Should a GOP candidate foster that? Hells no. Both sides should leave those families alone. But if they decide to come forward on their own, theirs could be a powerful voice that does indeed have greater impact than you seem to be assuming.

    There is also more to tell on this story. There are a few people who are.... bitter.... about the whole turn of events. Would someone in that community go off the rails? No idea. But the three guys interviewed by Fox are not the rest of the iceberg.
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    Clinton will make the economy the central issue of her campaign. She will position herself as somewhat hawkish on foreign policy(more than most democrats, less than most republicans), socially liberal and trying to work to benefit both the middle class and business. That is completely lacking in specifics, and that will be interesting to see, but if she runs, I think all of those are safe to say. Where she will spend her time is on the economy, and she has already started on that. Her Daily Show appearance recently she hit that message hard, that when her and her husband where coming up, if you worked hard and where smart, you would get ahead, but now that is not necessarily the case. It is a solid message that if she can put planned initiatives with could be hard to beat.

    She will talk about foreign policy only as much as she has to. It isn't a winner for any candidate, with the public varying from disinterested to mostly against anything any candidate would do. She will have a stock answer for questions about Benghazi, basically stating that the procedures where flawed, they found those flaws and fixed it, and then move on to other questions.
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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    If someone wants to take Hilary out they only need a 60 second commercial showing statements of people in the administration who knew the attack was a planned terrorist attack and Hillary lying about it in front of the dead bodies of the men who were killed as they came home. Run that once every 1/2 hour.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    The candidate of your party could take a crap in your favorite drinking cup and you would still vote for him or her. Neither side if going to go to the other side.

    The only thing that matters is probably which side comes out and votes.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    what are your thoughts?
    The media will have their lips to firmly planted on Clinton's ass hole to care what bad things she has done.Unless there is another democrat they would rather have in office instead of Clinton.
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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I think most people know she's a shameless liar anyway, and this only reinforces that belief. She may have a couple even bigger problems. One is her age and health. The other is that a lot of married women, in particular, don't like her. The idea of adulterous husbands tends to be very upsetting to them, and many of them just don't trust a wife who would put up with it year after year, woman after woman. I suspect that to many married women, tolerating that much infidelity that blandly seems so unnatural that it makes it hard for them to feel any sympathy with Mrs. Clinton.
    Your right and the GOP has to keep bringing that up over and over again and the same with Benghazi.
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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    what are your thoughts?
    No one cares. For one thing, at this point, everyone knows that Obama and his people lied about Benghazi, but the thing is that there has been so many worse scandals to happened that it has dwarfed whatever the republicans tried to make of Benghazi. At this point, everyone knows Obama is a liar, and people have come to terms with it. It's why he's at historically low approval ratings.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    It shows that Hilary is an incompetent leader.

    Seriously, she sent Stevens practically unguarded into an Al Qaeda controlled city for the ribbon cutting ceremony at an American Cultural Center. That's just plain incompetent. Either that or she wanted him dead.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    It shows that Hilary is an incompetent leader.

    Seriously, she sent Stevens practically unguarded into an Al Qaeda controlled city for the ribbon cutting ceremony at an American Cultural Center. That's just plain incompetent. Either that or she wanted him dead.
    Did Hillary order Stevens to go to that... what did you call it? Whatever, Hillary is in charge of god knows how many people, and she has time to order this one guy to this place which by the way, she also knows is certain death, because she has time to keep up with the intelligence reports of this particular place when she is the chief diplomat for the ENTIRE WORLD. I get it you don't want Hillary as president, I don't either, but c'mon man!

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Your right and the GOP has to keep bringing that up over and over again and the same with Benghazi.
    Because your party has nothing positive to offer our Great nation--just as in the 2012 POTUS primaries .
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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    No. What matters is likely democratic voters and I have seen nothing to indicate that the Benghazi scandal has that much of an effect on them.

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