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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You mean the Iraq war SUPPORTED by congress and, if I am not mistaken voted for by Hillary?
    Yeah. Hillary is a warhawk, that's one (out of many) reason I don't support her.

    I suppose if its numbers only, then four slobs serving their government are meaningless. But as your president gears up some outrage over a private citizen's beheading, what of this promise to "hunt them if they run?"
    Obama is a hypocrite, I don't disagree.

    Four Americans, one a sitting ambassador were killed by terrorists, who have walked away free and bragging that they can kill Americans with impunity and get away with it.
    That's problematic, but the GOP politicizing the issue and continually investigating a non-existent scandal will not serve to fix that. What we need to do is pull out of the Middle East and stop putting our men in that position to begin with!

    I hope she gets the nomination and wins
    Why?

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    what are your thoughts?
    Ain't gonna happen. Hillary already sat for Fox News on the issue. Both Fox and an investigation went nowhere. She knows what's she's doing.

    She's going to get my vote for the saaame reason that Obama did: she won't be a confederate neocon.
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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's a major drawback to my support of Hillary for President. I don't believe it was a conspiracy to get Americans killed, nor an attempt to help promote Jihad in America thereby giving Obama a third term. I don't even think covering it up with claims that it might be about a protest is so horrible; that could be a result of intel security.

    I do, however, believe that more could have and should have been done.

    One of the reasons I support Hillary is that she is a hawk, but she let me down on this one and I question her resolve to face tough situations with sufficient military force.
    Sort of this. Hillary ran in 2008 at least partly on the claim that she was the person Americans wanted answering the 2 a.m. phone call. Then, the biggest such call that came her way appears to have become a massive cluster. So it undercuts her narrative.

    A parallel - regardless of whether or not you are ideologically committed at this point to see them as villains or heroes - would be the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, who used the legitimacy they gained from their own service to attack Kerry's narrative about his own.

    I think it could derail her campaign, but is unlikely to actually do so.

    Although it will be interesting to see who comes out of the woodwork.
    Last edited by cpwill; 09-15-14 at 09:07 PM.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Hopes that Benghazi will ever have any decisive weight in American presidential elections = wishful thinking.

    People who believe Benghazi is a scandalous shame have never voted and will never vote for a Democrat anyway, Benghazi or not.

    People who believe Benghazi is an opportunistic political ploy by the Republicans have never voted and will never vote for a Republican anyway, Benghazi or not.

    The vast majority of American voters in-between these two extremes = entirely indifferent to Benghazi and sick and tired of the Republican's insistence with it.

    Therefore, Benghazi = zero influence over a presidential election.

    The Republicans need to understand the idea that beating a dead horse doesn't help their cause.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Jesus Himself could lead the investigation and unless it led to the outcome the Benghazi whiners want, He too would be drug through the mud.
    The only actual major character assassination we've seen over this story thus far is the State Department guy that the Administration supporters went after when he was publicly questioned and challenged their narrative. We had a left-leaning poster here (Sarcogito) who is actually in the DAT program, and was in Libya. He was pretty upset, watching the administration he supported go after his friends. Quit here shortly thereafter . Which is a shame - he was a good dude.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    what are your thoughts?
    Right now Benghazi is pretty much a non-issue. There is way too much other things happening in the world. I think come 2016 Benghazi will have played out. Perhaps those who are going to vote against her will use it as their reason. For the Hillary backers, Benghazi means nothing. For independents, they haven't really paid Benghazi any attention up to now and that is probably how they will continue. For Benghazi to play an important role in 2016, something much more sinister has to be uncovered than what is now known. Outside of that, it will be an issue for die hard Republicans only. That is my take on this thing today.
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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The only actual major character assassination we've seen over this story thus far is the State Department guy that the Administration supporters went after when he was publicly questioned and challenged their narrative. We had a left-leaning poster here (Sarcogito) who is actually in the DAT program, and was in Libya. He was pretty upset, watching the administration he supported go after his friends. Quit here shortly thereafter . Which is a shame - he was a good dude.
    There have been no shortage of crap and character assassination thrown at Obama and Clinton over Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

    You are a VERY intelligent guy and I know you know that. Did I misunderstand what you are trying to say?

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    Hopes that Benghazi will ever have any decisive weight in American presidential elections = wishful thinking.

    People who believe Benghazi is a scandalous shame have never voted and will never vote for a Democrat anyway, Benghazi or not.

    People who believe Benghazi is an opportunistic political ploy by the Republicans have never voted and will never vote for a Republican anyway, Benghazi or not.

    The vast majority of American voters in-between these two extremes = entirely indifferent to Benghazi and sick and tired of the Republican's insistence with it.

    Therefore, Benghazi = zero influence over a presidential election.

    The Republicans need to understand the idea that beating a dead horse doesn't help their cause.
    I agree, independents haven't paid Benghazi any attention up to now and won't in 2016. Unless there is a real smoking gun found, something sinister, Benghazi is as dead as an issue as Latin is to today's languages.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I agree, independents haven't paid Benghazi any attention up to now and won't in 2016. Unless there is a real smoking gun found, something sinister, Benghazi is as dead as an issue as Latin is to today's languages.
    Hesterna locus.

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    Re: Do you think the Benghazi scandal could bring down Hillary's run for President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Evidence of what exactly?
    The evidence identified in the OP article. Did you read the article?
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