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Isis Crucifixions

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Do these crucifixions have a religious tie to Christianity, representing the death of Jesus Christ? Is it a mockery? I know its a public show of what happens to those who defy the Islamic state, but is there a christian undertow to it? What do you think?
 
Jesus wasn't the first or the last person to die on a cross...
 
gfnoah said:
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Do these crucifixions have a religious tie to Christianity, representing the death of Jesus Christ? Is it a mockery? I know its a public show of what happens to those who defy the Islamic state, but is there a christian undertow to it? What do you think?
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Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what exactly crucifixion is, but that doesn't look like it. My understanding is that they were nailed to a cross and allowed to die, not killed and then tied to a cross-like structure. Much as many would like to turn that into "crucifixion" so they can claim a christian aspect to it all, I doubt that's the case or they'd be more accurate to such and these would be crucifixions by all aspects, not just displays of dead folks on wooden frames.
 
He looks so unhappy. That pic really bums me out.
 
No. Crucifixion has a long history - going back a couple of thousand years - in that region and in the rest of the world. It was even practiced in Japan until the early 20th century.
 
Summerwind said:
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what exactly crucifixion is, but that doesn't look like it. My understanding is that they were nailed to a cross and allowed to die, not killed and then tied to a cross-like structure. Much as many would like to turn that into "crucifixion" so they can claim a christian aspect to it all, I doubt that's the case or they'd be more accurate to such and these would be crucifixions by all aspects, not just displays of dead folks on wooden frames.
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They weren't necessarily nailed to the cross. Tying people to it was probably more common.
 
Crucifixion, when done properly, only requires the feet to be fixed in a position that is elevated enough so that when the legs tire of pushing up, the pelvis pushes the spine into a curved adding pressure to the diaphram making it hard to breath. The arms or hands are fixed in a position that the shoulders eventually dislocate and the torso adds pressure to the diaphram from above making the suffocation process more pronounced. The subject eventually dies from a slow asphyxiation that takes hours or even days.

It is my belief that it should be the chosen method of execution for all ISIS members captured in battle.
 
gfnoah said:
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Do these crucifixions have a religious tie to Christianity, representing the death of Jesus Christ? Is it a mockery? I know its a public show of what happens to those who defy the Islamic state, but is there a christian undertow to it? What do you think?
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I all honesty I don't know. What I do know is that crucifixion is a barbaric practice so it makes sense that the barbarians of ISIS would use it.
 
TeleKat said:
Jesus wasn't the first or the last person to die on a cross...
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Yeah I know that, but the news is referring to these occurrences as "crucifixions" and the most widely know crucifixion is Jesus Christ. Hence why I was wondering if it was a mockery towards Christianity. Not that he was the first one, just that why publicly parade these men around in this fashion?
 
The Baron said:
I all honesty I don't know. What I do know is that crucifixion is a barbaric practice so it makes sense that the barbarians of ISIS would use it.
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Yeah, it is painful to see but its a reality that people should know about.
 

Summerwind said:
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what exactly crucifixion is, but that doesn't look like it. My understanding is that they were nailed to a cross and allowed to die, not killed and then tied to a cross-like structure. Much as many would like to turn that into "crucifixion" so they can claim a christian aspect to it all, I doubt that's the case or they'd be more accurate to such and these would be crucifixions by all aspects, not just displays of dead folks on wooden frames.
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It could still be a crucifixion, although I’m certainly not an executioner or expert on the subject. Crucifixion is simply death by suffocation. With your arms outstretched and the rest of your body hanging it becomes very difficult to breath. The Romans were exceptionally cruel in their crucifixions as they used them to control their subject. The Romans would put a small, wood platform under the feet of the person being crucified. This allowed the person being crucified to “stand up” on the platform and catch his breath from time to time. Once the Romans became bored with the crucifixion they would break the condemned’s legs. No longer able to stand the individual died from suffication.

The guy in the picture looks like he’s being crucified rather quickly by not having any ability to stand with his legs tied outward.

 
gfnoah said:
Yeah I know that, but the news is referring to these occurrences as "crucifixions" and the most widely know crucifixion is Jesus Christ. Hence why I was wondering if it was a mockery towards Christianity. Not that he was the first one, just that why publicly parade these men around in this fashion?
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Crucifixions are a popular way of public slaughter. Especially if you are going for shock value. I doubt there's some deeper meaning behind them. :shrug:
 
TeleKat said:
Crucifixions are a popular way of public slaughter. Especially if you are going for shock value. I doubt there's some deeper meaning behind them. :shrug:
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True. Maybe just for the fact that its the best way to strike fear in people
 
TeleKat said:
Crucifixions are a popular way of public slaughter. Especially if you are going for shock value. I doubt there's some deeper meaning behind them. :shrug:
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I don't doubt there is a meaning behind it. These sadistic scumbags know exactly what they are doing, its to intimidate christians. Do not underestimate these vile murdering savages.
 
gfnoah said:
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Do these crucifixions have a religious tie to Christianity, representing the death of Jesus Christ? Is it a mockery? I know its a public show of what happens to those who defy the Islamic state, but is there a christian undertow to it? What do you think?
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Actually, it's something they've taken directly from the Quran.

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

- Quran 5:33
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gfnoah said:
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Do these crucifixions have a religious tie to Christianity, representing the death of Jesus Christ? Is it a mockery? I know its a public show of what happens to those who defy the Islamic state, but is there a christian undertow to it? What do you think?
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No, there isn't.
 
Gringo allstar said:
I don't doubt there is a meaning behind it. These sadistic scumbags know exactly what they are doing, its to intimidate christians. Do not underestimate these vile murdering savages.
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Christianity doesn't own crucifixion or the symbolism behind it. Believe it or not, history didn't begin when the bible was written.
 
TeleKat said:
Crucifixions are a popular way of public slaughter. Especially if you are going for shock value. I doubt there's some deeper meaning behind them. :shrug:
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The Romans usually reserved crucifixion for those convicted of political crimes, like sedition. It was meant to demean the crucified and act as a warning to everyone else.

Marcus Licinius Crassus, who was a contemporary of Caesar's, rose to fame by putting down a slave revolt and then crucifying the 6,000 survivors. Their crosses lined the Via Appia for miles.
 
TeleKat said:
Christianity doesn't own crucifixion or the symbolism behind it. Believe it or not, history didn't begin when the bible was written.
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Well gee thanks for the history lesson! Although I dont see anywhere in my post where I even make that claim, so maybe you have me confused with someone else? I will say that knowing how much ISIS hates all things Jewish and Christian, it seems logical to use the symbolism from these groups in an effort to terrorize them? But in your case it would seem you believe its just "coincidence". Which I find naive at best, or purposefully ignorant because your disdain for Christianity out weighs your dislike for ISIS??
 
Gringo allstar said:
Well gee thanks for the history lesson! Although I dont see anywhere in my post where I even make that claim, so maybe you have me confused with someone else? I will say that knowing how much ISIS hates all things Jewish and Christian, it seems logical to use the symbolism from these groups in an effort to terrorize them? But in your case it would seem you believe its just "coincidence". Which I find naive at best, or purposefully ignorant because your disdain for Christianity out weighs your dislike for ISIS??
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Right. Understanding that crucifixion isn't owned by the christian religion means I hate christianity. :roll:
 
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