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Thread: Is ISIL Islamic?

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    Is ISIL Islamic?

    Does "Islamic" really mean "what we in the West want Islam to be", or does "Islamic" mean... well.... Islamic.

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    ...Given the First Amendment alone, there’s something un-American in any government official simply declaring what is or is not a religion. Bush’s formulation in his September 20, 2001, address to Congress was better: “The terrorists practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism that has been rejected by Muslim scholars and the vast majority of Muslim clerics; a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam.”

    Regardless, I’m not the kind of purist who would object to Obama’s version — if it worked. Aeschylus first noted more than 2,400 years ago that the first casualty of war is the truth. And if saying that the Islamic State is guilty of religious false advertising makes it easier to win a war, that’s fine by me.

    But does it work?

    Bush’s assurances that “Islam means peace” had little to no discernible effect. It’s unlikely that Obama’s non-Islamic classification will do any better.

    Anyone who thinks jihadism is authentically Muslim won’t change his mind because Obama (or Bush before him) says so....

    If we’re talking clarity, I’d say the Islamic State is clearly not Mormon. Or Lutheran. Or Buddhist. It most certainly is not the most extreme example of Quakers gone bad ever recorded.

    As for its not being Islamic, that’s at best unclear, if not just clearly wrong. And the fact that the majority of its victims are Muslim is irrelevant. Lenin and Stalin killed thousands of Communists and socialists; that doesn’t mean Lenin and Stalin weren’t Communists and socialists. If such terrorists who kill Muslims aren’t Muslims, why do we give them Korans when we imprison them?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Is Westboro Christian?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Going by the Quran? Yes.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Is Westboro Christian?
    Yes. Just their interpretation, just as ISIS is Islamic, not peaceful Muslims.
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Is this a trick question?
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Is the pope Catholic?
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Is a frog's ass watertight?
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Uhm ......Does a polar bear **** on iceses?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Does a bear **** in the woods?
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Prior to the Islamofascist form of Islam that has spread across the Middle East, you didn't see females in many of these Muslim countries covered with head dresses, burkas and Sharia Law was not enforced. Not as far back as the 60's that I could find. The extremists who were often clerics began to poison the minds of their followers and were the crux that encouraged the teaching of hatred and intolerance of other religious faiths. Now we have had multiple decades of children raised to hate their neighbors and women often having less rights than the family goat. Quite frankly, I personally am sick of the BS. These people have hijacked a faith, using a few Scriptures in their holy book to justify their heinous behavior. But that is what all extremists do. But in the Jewish faith and the Christian faith, you always find those willing to stand up against extremism to keep it in check. In the Muslim faith not so much. If they want to claim to be decendants of Abraham, I suggest they study the character of Abraham before they continue. Nuff Said.

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