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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Does anybody see a correlation between Germany in 1939 and Iraq now?

    The Jews were being exterminated then and now the Christians are being exterminated.

    Does anybody think this group will stop at Iraq's borders when they are done with the Christians there?

    What should the US and it's allies do to stop the 2nd holocaust?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ... and you have read this book and know it well? As a matter of illustration, the Bible tells us to stone (death by torture) idolators, adulterers and rebellious children. Are Christians that do stone to death their rebellious children perverting it?

    If you don't know your Bible, you might draw that conclusion and or take it out of context to make your point about Christians being barbaric murderers..... Do you know your Quran well enough to know the context of what it is saying here? I don't.
    Did you not understand my point?

    Are you saying the Koran does not say to "kill infidels"?

    Why are you excusing what they are doing by pointing to a 2000 year old book that nobody takes literally anymore?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Okay, then Christianity is a violent and dangerous religion.
    Maybe it was but it isn't now.

    Why don't you try to stick to what is happening now instead of trying to deflect from this subject.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Maybe it was but it isn't now.

    Why don't you try to stick to what is happening now instead of trying to deflect from this subject.
    I am sticking to the subject: the hate of the Muslim religion; the argument that Obama does't hate them enough. I insert Christianity only as a focal point about violence in religion, and that as such, one religion doesn;t have anything over the other. Even Buddahist have been know to riot.

    My point is, this business of hating a religion has been done before and it is an extremely dangerous path to go down.
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I am sticking to the subject: the hate of the Muslim religion; the argument that Obama does't hate them enough. I insert Christianity only as a focal point about violence in religion, and that as such, one religion doesn;t have anything over the other. Even Buddahist have been know to riot.

    My point is, this business of hating a religion has been done before and it is an extremely dangerous path to go down.
    You see this as hating religion?

    How about hating the people using this religion to exterminate people.

    Doesn't that sound more accurate?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You see this as hating religion?

    How about hating the people using this religion to exterminate people.

    Doesn't that sound more accurate?
    It certainly does sound more accurate, however that's not what's happening and I have a problem with that.
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Does "Islamic" really mean "what we in the West want Islam to be", or does "Islamic" mean... well.... Islamic.

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    Not really understanding why you're question is generating all of this hostility. Isn't the point of forums to debate and exchange information and to , well be informed? I hope your question was answered with clarity. And just to emphasize, yes they are Islamic, just a different sect of the religion who destroy any hope of believing anything other than what they believe. Hence the crucifixions.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Prior to the Islamofascist form of Islam that has spread across the Middle East, you didn't see females in many of these Muslim countries covered with head dresses, burkas and Sharia Law was not enforced. Not as far back as the 60's that I could find. The extremists who were often clerics began to poison the minds of their followers and were the crux that encouraged the teaching of hatred and intolerance of other religious faiths. Now we have had multiple decades of children raised to hate their neighbors and women often having less rights than the family goat. Quite frankly, I personally am sick of the BS. These people have hijacked a faith, using a few Scriptures in their holy book to justify their heinous behavior. But that is what all extremists do. But in the Jewish faith and the Christian faith, you always find those willing to stand up against extremism to keep it in check. In the Muslim faith not so much. If they want to claim to be decendants of Abraham, I suggest they study the character of Abraham before they continue. Nuff Said.
    That's not entirely accurate, look closer at Wahhabism and the history of the KSA, it goes back a lot longer than the 60s.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Did you not understand my point?

    Are you saying the Koran does not say to "kill infidels"?

    Why are you excusing what they are doing by pointing to a 2000 year old book that nobody takes literally anymore?
    Did you not understand my point? Apparently not? I pointed out passages in the Bible that exist, yet could be taken out of context and made to make Christian look barbaric, unless you understood the Bible. (No one takes the Bible seriously anymore?... ... I won't "crucify" you over that absurd statement... I will let that go as its not my point.... It is also almost 3,500 years old, parts of it, anyway)

    Apparently you do not understand the Quran, but nonetheless chose to take something out of context (because you have no understanding) Sorry, but by your own apparent admission here, you don't know what you are talking about, but chose to talk anyway. That is quintessential ignorance.

    Go find out exactly what the Quran says and, more importantly, the context in which it says it and then talk. Until then, sit humbly.

    The root of most wars is hate; the root of most hate is ignorance. Don't be ignorant.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 09-17-14 at 02:31 AM.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The KKK and Westboro are pervert versions of Christianity as is ISIL a perverted versions of Islam. Extremism usually is played out of bounds.
    Except..
    ISIL IS emulating Mohammed and his immediate Successors. (and the first 500 yrs of Islam)
    KKK, etc is NOT emulating Jesus.
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