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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Yes, crappy ones that don't care about emulating Jesus' example.
    People who use God's name for personal gain or the advancement of a]n agenda are not new....

    However, judging 400 million people's faith based on the actions of a handful of brain damaged homophobic right wing extremists is really the same as judging all of Islam based on ISIS, or more correctly what the White House is feeding you about Islam. During Bush's rhetorical drive to invade Afghanistan there were people who believed that to be Muslim was terrorism. Muslims who had been neighbors were now being harassed. Commentators were citing passages of the Koran that didn't exist; today Jimmy Carter bringing a message of reconciliation and the need for the Islamic community to become more vocal in denouncing terrorism brings charges of "sleeping with the enemy" with citations of White House releases about "suspected ties" to this or that terrorist organization. They are taken as truth/gospel of the Bible of hate despite a record of incompetence in identifying anyone.

    When you can create sufficient panic in the populace, they will surrender their rights faster than rats will eat each other; and that makes it so very more "efficient" in "getting things done"....
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Some fringe Christian groups have been in the past and a few in the present, yes. I see what you're doing, but it doesn't work on me. I don't think Islam is a violent religion - it's an extreme percentage of Muslims who are violent and dangerous. Good effort, though.
    I don't know how you come to the conclusion that it's an extreme percentage?

    And reality doesn't have to work on you if you don't want it to, but Christianity as a relgion has nothing to say about Islam. To this day radical Christians act out violently in the name of their version of God.
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Actually they were all Jewish until Constantine...so was Jesus, he never converted to anything.
    Yep! Constantine was the one, at the council of Nicea (about 325) that made the proclamation that anyone caught worshipping on the sabbath day was anathema from Christ, and the Catholic Church was born.
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep! Constantine was the one, at the council of Nicea (about 325) that made the proclamation that anyone caught worshipping on the sabbath day was anathema from Christ, and the Catholic Church was born.


    Which I believe was never intended by Jesus. He is rather specific about things and Acts bears that out.

    It is when Connie converts that we see the church become The Church, built as a replica of the Roman Empire, including what would become "God's Representative on Earth" and later "infallible" that we see The Church become dictator of what everyone must believe. To make it palatable to the pagans, they adopted pagan ways, where "Patron Saints" replaced gods and titans who were said to rule such things as love, reason, the harvest and little defenseless animals.

    then we take the Roman mass [Catholic means the universal church of Christ, all those who believe in the 3 fundamentals] and look at some Grecian practices which became Roman which became Catholic; the statuary, sometimes grotesque, the incense, and especially chanting and singing praises, none of which Jesus would have practiced. The concept of confession and repentance actually stems from pagan rites, where "priests" are paid to forgive wrongs against their gods....

    just some "lite" theological rambling for a drizzly afternoon
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I don't know how you come to the conclusion that it's an extreme percentage?
    I don't know how you don't? Do you think that all Muslims are violent and dangerous?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    And reality doesn't have to work on you if you don't want it to, but Christianity as a relgion has nothing to say about Islam.
    Huh?

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    To this day radical Christians act out violently in the name of their version of God.
    Yes, as I said there are fringe crazies in every religion. Islam just so happens to have the MOST crazies at this moment. Don't you think?

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I don't know how you don't? Do you think that all Muslims are violent and dangerous?



    Huh?



    Yes, as I said there are fringe crazies in every religion. Islam just so happens to have the MOST crazies at this moment. Don't you think?
    Okay; I misunderstood you. I quite agree that the crazy jihadists group are the new centipede that's for sure.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    that's past the ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq & the Levant) ability, yes.

    I look at those Twitter pics as nothing more then propaganda to entice jihadi .
    In truth even the (full) Levant is much too ambitious -but the caliphate is possible to carve out from Iraq/Syria/and perhaps smidges of Jordan, or Lebanon.

    ISIS isn't a misnomer then.
    they may have intentions of conquering israel.
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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    they may have intentions of conquering israel.
    not a chance, i'm sure nothing would make them happier, but no..

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    they may have intentions of conquering israel.
    MAY? I think it's very clear that radical Islam wants to conquer Israel. They say it all the time.

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    Re: Is ISIL Islamic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    MAY? I think it's very clear that radical Islam wants to conquer Israel. They say it all the time.
    maybe it has something to do with this being located in Jerusalem

    http://www.domeoftherock.net/images/...he%20rock5.jpg

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