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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Greetings, SouthernDemocrat.

    Yep, that's just what the world needs - dozens more extremist groups! And that is what he wants? WTH? It almost sounds like Obama is scolding ISIS for becoming big enough to warrant international notice! In other words, we're still going to continue to interfere in the ME, toppling governments because we want others in charge who want to go back to the dark ages.... all because they have religious arguments with each other, and have had for a thousand years - three times longer than America has been a country! This whole mess is too weird for me to try to make sense of it! Sanity has left the building, IMO....

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Again we see the Obama doctrine of do as little as possible, as late as possible and involve as many "nations'" as possible. The idea that we can "provide air support" and send advisors/trainers to whip local morons off the street into "reliable combat forces" has failed everywhere it has been tried. The "Vietnamization" of the ME will be no different. Is this not the same Obama that assured of us a victory (and lasting peace?) in Iraq and has already declared a "victory" date (just months away) in Afghanistan?

    Trying to get congressional support for a plan to spend US treasure on "well vetted" freedom fighters (and whoever else has to be bribed) in the ME is insane. The US is a superpower and should start to act like one. If the most powerful military on the planet cannot acheive victory against an enemy in Afghanistan in under a decade that has no navy, no air force and a rag tag, at best, army then we have a seriously flawed battle plan.

    After a single meeting with Iraq's new leader and without any status of forces agreement we are now ready for Iraq war part III (for at least three years) and jumping into the Syrian civil war. Why not let ISIL (ISIS?) be reciognized as a state (their dream) and then wipe them out? Would that not be a more permanent solution (and deterent for future wanna be Jihad leaders) than arming "freedom fighters" that likely will be as totally inneffective as the Iraqi and Afghan "armies" on which we have spent billions training and arming only to suddenly realize that they were "not quite ready for prime time"?
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Two and a half years late. At least he's late doing the right thing.
    Have you ever stared at Obama face ? He looks like he's part turtle. May explain why he reacts and moves so slowly on every thing.

    Have you noticed because of illegal aliens in America and there so many of them mowing lawns for a living that on lawn mowers today they have a picture on the throttle of a rabbit for rapido (fast) and a turtle for slow. Talk about dumbing down of America.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Two and a half years late. At least he's late doing the right thing.
    Since yer another with the history rewrite, how many more thousands of soldiers would have been KIA, MIA and maimed for life with a residual force of 15,000 that you and GOPs still wish would have been left behind--against overwhekming American public opinion?

    And how do you think the civil war would be going in Syria tonight, which your President pledged to fight in tonite?
    How many tens of thousands of ISILs would be "bringing it on" right now?

    Would Israel have been forced into the fighting, blowing up the ME ?
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since yer another with the history rewrite, how many more thousands of soldiers would have been KIA, MIA and maimed for life with a residual force of 15,000 that you and GOPs still wish would have been left behind--against overwhekming American public opinion?

    And how do you think the civil war would be going in Syria tonight, which your President pledged to fight in tonite?
    How many tens of thousands of ISILs would be "bringing it on" right now?

    Would Israel have been forced into the fighting, blowing up the ME ?
    Had 15,000 US troops been left in Iraq, and had the US acted in Syria in 2012, there would be no ISIL and Asad would long since have been overthrown in Syria. US casualties would have been minimal to non-existent.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you can polish a turd only so much but it still stinks NIMBY. we give Obama the support he deserves-and far more than most of the Dems gave W during the war
    I thought the Dems voted with Bush to go to war in Iraq? What support was denied Bush? He got everything he wanted and left us in shambles.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    His speech was fine. He said the right things, but I have no faith in Iraqi forces to accomplish anything. I have no idea how to eradicate an ideology.
    By killing those that fight for it - see WWII.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Have you ever stared at Obama face ? He looks like he's part turtle.
    Did you really just make fun of Obama's face?
    Maybe now you know why I "don't watch" the TV, I "listen" to it--you should try it some time.
    May explain why he reacts and moves so slowly on every thing.
    Mr. Obama continues to walk softly and carry a big stick, which ISIL is about to get thumped by.

    Have you noticed because of illegal aliens in America and there so many of them mowing lawns for a living that on lawn mowers today they have a picture on the throttle of a rabbit for rapido (fast) and a turtle for slow. Talk about dumbing down of America.
    And then you finish with illegal aliens, mowing lawns, and comparing turtles to rabbits--moronic nonsense.
    How did rabbit-type behavior work out for the overloaded VA system last decade, which was terribly underfunded in the last admin ?
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I thought the Dems voted with Bush to go to war in Iraq? What support was denied Bush? He got everything he wanted and left us in shambles.
    And GWB handed off a victory in Iraq that BHO threw away.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Summarizing The President's Speech | Zero Hedge

    There must be a Neocon virus that inhabits the White House and is passed on from one POTUS to the next.

    Once again Obama proves what a completely useless POTUS he is. No boots on the ground? How about 475 pairs of them...to start (in addition to other 'non-boots on the ground' he has sent). ISIS has a military with NO warplanes and apparently only 7-10,000 troops. And they are a threat to America? Total nonsense.

    This is about one thing, imo. Neocon crap. Neocons are terrified of China and they want to be able to deny China access to middle eastern oil if things get heated...so these ignorant Neocons want US military bases/influence in that region so as to control the area when the time is 'right'.
    And the pathetically weak masses of America (ever since 9-11) now get scared of almost ANYTHING if it just goes 'boo'.

    First it was al Qaeda, now it's their whacko offshoot. What's the next thing to terrify the U.S. masses - some guy with a pipe bomb and a YouTube channel?

    Imo, all this will do is get more innocent people killed and they will blame America - which will breed more terrorists who want to kill Americans. It will cost many more billions that America does not have. It will probably end up getting at least some Americans killed. And it will do NOTHING but make matters worse in the long run in Iraq/Syria.

    How many times does America have to totally mess up in that part of the world before people finally get it - America does not know what her leaders are doing...no matter which POTUS is running things?


    What happened to that Nobel Peace Prize Barack...you f*cking moron (politically speaking)? Oh yeah, you left it in Gitmo.
    Last edited by DA60; 09-11-14 at 12:38 AM.

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