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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What are your thoughts on the Presidents speech about ISIS?
    Pessimistic about follow through. If the President follows through on even a portion of his rhetoric then I'd be surprised and pleased.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    There it is.....all of MSDNC slamming this speech by BO. How did that happen? Why are they dumping on BO? Richard Engel called it Right with Yemen. So to did Don Sutherland.

    Yeah that bit about BO saying ISIL wasn't Islamic.....went over real well.
    Apparently our President has "Muslim" confused with "Muslim I agree with". Muslims are only Muslims when they are approved by His Excellency.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Pessimistic about follow through. If the President follows through on even a portion of his rhetoric then I'd be surprised and pleased.
    We might see a finding that authorizes taking out External Ops leadership.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I think to an extent people were spoiled by Desert Storm. Wars for Americans are now supposed to be rapid demonstrations of how awesome we are, followed by parades.
    I think you are right. Desert Storm spoiled Americans because it was decisive and short. The ground war took, what three days and the war was over. Saddam would continue to harass us, but in the larger scope of things, it was no big deal. Americans want quick wars, wars that are decisive and over with in a very short time. If a war lasts any length of time, they get turned off and begin to turn against it. We do not want a war to drag on and on.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think you are right. Desert Storm spoiled Americans because it was decisive and short. The ground war took, what three days and the war was over. Saddam would continue to harass us, but in the larger scope of things, it was no big deal. Americans want quick wars, wars that are decisive and over with in a very short time. If a war lasts any length of time, they get turned off and begin to turn against it. We do not want a war to drag on and on.
    War today is a video game. It's safe, fought from miles or even continents away with drones and if we see any significant body bags, Americans freak out. The WWII death toll was more than 407,000. The Iraq war was less than 4000. We don't want to see casualties, we just want to pretend we're automatically superior.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    What scares me, is that Obama woke up one morning and realized what a big giant pussy he looks like. The only way to fix that is for him to start a shooting war to prove that he really does have a great big cock and actually pees standing up vice squatting.

    He is totally unprepared--mentally, physically, ideoligically--to be a war president. He'll establish ROE's that will cause more American casualties than necessary.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    War today is a video game. It's safe, fought from miles or even continents away with drones and if we see any significant body bags, Americans freak out. The WWII death toll was more than 407,000. The Iraq war was less than 4000. We don't want to see casualties, we just want to pretend we're automatically superior.
    I seen that superior attitude from some of our advisers when I was in Laos. I have no doubt that probably most Americans have that superior attitude.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I seen that superior attitude from some of our advisers when I was in Laos. I have no doubt that probably most Americans have that superior attitude.
    Maybe we ought to be taken down a peg or two. There's something to be said for being humble.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think you are right. Desert Storm spoiled Americans because it was decisive and short. The ground war took, what three days and the war was over. Saddam would continue to harass us, but in the larger scope of things, it was no big deal. Americans want quick wars, wars that are decisive and over with in a very short time. If a war lasts any length of time, they get turned off and begin to turn against it. We do not want a war to drag on and on.
    Greetings, Pero.

    Maybe the three-year timeline we have set to get things squared away in the ME is too long, huh? However, when you consider that the people of the ME have been warring with each other for a 1,000 years, three years is a reasonable guess. Of course Obama will be out of office before that, so the new Madame President can tidy up the loose ends, I guess.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Maybe we ought to be taken down a peg or two. There's something to be said for being humble.
    I wonder if that is necessary. A bit of respect goes a long way. When I was in Laos I respected and learned their customs and lived with the Lao, not in the fancy house provided us. I noticed that the Lao would politely bow to most Americans after advice given to them on the war and not say a thing. But they would to me, they would talk to me, make suggestions and let me know what they thought. Something they wouldn't do to the other Americans. That my personal note on this if it applies. We are not superior to others, we usually just have more money and a better standard of living.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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