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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I don't believe he is complaining that the U.S. will take further action against ISIS. A robust strategy is needed.

    It is incredible that far from having put in place a "broad coalition" to combat ISIS, the U.S. has actually just begun trying to do so. That longtime strategic allies such as Germany and the UK were not already on board in some capacity and that the nation's Arab allies weren't already on board is deeply troubling. All of those countries should have been consulted intensively, roles developed, and commitments made before the speech was delivered or the language about a broad coalition should have been excluded from the speech. What happens if support turns out to be limited? While Washington might complain about reluctant allies, the problem will rest solely with the lack of preparation. A lot of intense preparation should be undertaken and only then should the U.S. move. The U.S. should not move before the necessary pieces are in place.

    They wouldn't know much about that DS. They figure that sending the pawns in here.....will work. Not in Syria it won't.

    Everything you say is true.....all our allies should have been talked with. Including the Saudi who isn't to happy with us. Moreover once Turkey was mentioned. They gave Hagel their response in how they will be determining for themselves. What actions or specific actions to take place.

    Already this shows a gap in this coalition as well as who will be leading what.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya TDS .....didn't you have a thread up on ISIL going undercover due to the AirStrikes? Plus some of the other things they would do to limit them?
    No not necesasary, they know that air strikes work...

    That's why this ramp up and the hype...he's been bombing since August...and they're working so well he needs more
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    No not necesasary, they know that air strikes work...

    That's why this ramp up and the hype...he's been bombing since August...and they're working so well he needs more
    I say we should keep using air strikes againist ISIS.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    ISIL Is the newest incarnation of the orginization al qeada In Iraq.
    ISIL was a part of AQ before the Z-man denounced them.....also he knew they were working with AQAP all along.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    ISIL was a part of AQ before the Z-man denounced them.....also he knew they were working with AQAP all along.
    ISIS = Al qeada in iraq
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    This, I know was posted before, but is significant..

    Once you get over the shock of this being left leaning media reporting, the comments are striking:

    'Oversimplification', 'Wildly Off-Base': MSNBC Slams Obama's ISIS Speech | National Review Online

    Most of all this. I tend to put a lot of credence in the reporting on in-country journalists:


    NBC’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel, phoning in from northern Iraq, took issue with President Obama’s plan to confront the Islamic State in a manner similar to ongoing U.S. operations in Somalia and Yemen. “I think it is wildly off-base, frankly,” he accused. “I think it’s an oversimplification of the problem.” He explained there is a “partner government” in Yemen that requires the United States to help with reconnaissance and hard-to-reach targets, and a cooperative government in Somalia, too.

    “That’s not at all the situation that we see in Iraq and Syria,” he said. “Here we have a large group, tens of thousands of fighters. They control an area the size of Maryland. They control an area with 8 million people living inside of it. It’s much more akin to regime change than it is waiting back, picking targets with allied forces. They are not comparable at all.”
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Monte. You didn't forget that AQAP was always part of ISIL? You didn't think they.....were not, working with each other, did you?
    Don't know, not sure of your point there MMC.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Actually ISIS has declared war on Al Qaeda. They are not working together now.

    ISIS caliphate declaration of war against Al-Qaeda « ASHARQ AL-AWSAT

    Not anymore.....Al Nusra pledged to ISIL. Oh and there has been no words from the Invisible Sheik as to declaring War on AQ. Also what isn't mentioned with the creation of Caliphate.....is the Invisible Sheik jumping up in front of King Abdullahs' Ascension. Yet you have not heard ISIL declare War on the Saud.....yet!

    Al Nusra pledges allegiance to Isil.....


    Opens the way for jihadist group to control both sides of the border with Syria and Iraq. Al Qaida’s Syrian offshoot on Wednesday made an oath of loyalty to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant at a key town on the Iraqi border, a monitor said. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the merger is significant because it opens the way for Isil to take control of both sides of the border at Albu Kamal in Syria and Al Qaim in Iraq, where the jihadist group has led a major offensive this month.

    After months of clashes between the two sides, Al Qaida’s official Syrian arm the Al Nusra Front “pledged loyalty to Isil” in Albu Kamal, said Observatory director Rami Abdul Rahman. “The pledge comes amid advances by Isil in Deir Al Zor province” in eastern Syria on the Iraqi border, Abdul Rahman told AFP.....snip~

    Al Nusra pledges allegiance to Isil | GulfNews.com

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    ISIS = Al qeada in iraq
    ISIS = ISIL = AQ. Before they became ISIL they were AQ members. That was it!!!!!

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They wouldn't know much about that DS. They figure that sending the pawns in here.....will work. Not in Syria it won't.

    Everything you say is true.....all our allies should have been talked with. Including the Saudi who isn't to happy with us. Moreover once Turkey was mentioned. They gave Hagel their response in how they will be determining for themselves. What actions or specific actions to take place.

    Already this shows a gap in this coalition as well as who will be leading what.
    Hey, I'm not too happy with the Saudis either, so **** them
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