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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You have problems with comprehension. Saying they were not asked to participate does not mean they were not informed.
    Looks like you do.....the German said to be quite clear, they were not asked to do so. I doubt you can change his words.

    Now whats your excuses for MSDNC dumping on him for his speech? Although try and let us know without thinking for others.

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    All I can say is that if the horror of ISIS is not enough to get the Iraqi's to fight for their homeland I don't know what will. Meanwhile
    since ISIS is an ARMY we can stomp them real good from the air. Their tanks and heavy artillery will be toast real soon.
    And what happens if they hunker down in the cities they've already captured? Destroy the cities and everyone in them?
    They can run but they cannot hide tanks on the move.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I'm personally indifferent. Like any president speech its all about talking points. I honestly dont think we should be directly involved militarily in this conflict meaning I dont think we should have boots on the ground or commence airstrikes. I think we need to take the training wheels off the Iraqi gov, and strongly support the Kurds. I do however honestly can see the argument for airstrikes. But I see the long term benefits of airstrikes doing much to nothing.
    Heya TDS .....didn't you have a thread up on ISIL going undercover due to the AirStrikes? Plus some of the other things they would do to limit them?

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Arming the MB Backed Rebels now.....training them and giving them weapons, so they can fight ISIL will allow them to take the fight to Assad. Which Iran will not go for that. Its Iran who has been arming the Shia in Iraq and putting together Militias. They already have played their games with the Nuke Talks. Plus now they see BO doesn't even have the backing of our closest allies. That he really doesn't want to deal with this problem.

    Which btw....did you hear Reid on the Senate floor talk about these terrorists? He is all for arming the and funding the MB backed Rebels.
    Many congress critters (and Obama) see the arming of foreign mercenaries as a great deal; they can funnel gobs of tax (other people's) money into the "defense" industry in their district/state, appear very patriotic (protecting the folks and all) and not have to deal with as many US service casualties. The previously "unknown opposition forces" have thus been instantly declared "fully vetted" - time to let our tax dollars flow and sit back and collect the, all important, campaign cash - USA, USA, USA...
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well Russia wasn't the only one DS.....but they do have a point as BO and team do want to get rid of Assad. But then from BO's speech and his calling it a 4 pronged attack. He talked about our allies are helping out with the Airstrikes in Iraq. Aid and Airstrikes.

    But now Syria.....that's a different story. Here from our #1 Strategic Ally.




    Britain’s foreign secretary says his country won’t participate in airstrikes on Syria, following an announcement from Washington that it would begin hitting targets inside the country.

    Speaking Thursday after talks with his German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Philip Hammond said Britain won’t be “revisiting” the issue after Parliament decided last year against participating in airstrikes.....snip~

    Britain: Won't take part in airstrikes on Syria


    Now Germany.


    The foreign ministers of Germany and Britain said on Thursday they would not be taking part in air strikes in Syria against the Islamic State militant group.

    German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told a news conference in Berlin that Germany has not been asked to take part in the air strikes and would not be participating. “To quite clear, we have not been asked to do so and neither will we do so,” Steinmeier said.....snip~

    Germany, Britain say won't take part in anti-IS air strikes in Syria | Reuters


    It looks as though BO, and his political team wrote a speech without building the necessary commitment from allies to allow them to be part of a united front on global security.

    Hows that in comparison with his Speech? If he didn't even talk with our closest allies before this speech. Where do you think that leaves him on the rest of his 4 prong attack?
    The guy that was supposed to unite the world has **** on all our allies, they can't stand the idiot.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh good gawd. For the umpteenth time. IS was hiding under a rock until we conducted regime change and overthrew, or otherwise supported the overthrow of Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad.
    Heya Monte. You didn't forget that AQAP was always part of ISIL? You didn't think they.....were not, working with each other, did you?

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Monte. You didn't forget that AQAP was always part of ISIL? You didn't think they.....were not, working with each other, did you?
    ISIL Is the newest incarnation of the orginization al qeada In Iraq.
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Mittner View Post
    Well, I prefer to estimate Obama's actions based on Obama's past actions; not the actions of 3 presidents ranging from 65 to 50 years ago. And so far Obama's policy has pretty consistently been to provide logistical support to resident allies, and leverage our air superiority. I've seen no cause to think he'll do otherwise here, before or after the mid-terms.

    Now, what his predecessor will do if we're still fighting ISIS in two years, I have no idea.


    You WILL be fighting ISIS in two years and a lot longer.


    A bit over sensitive about your guy...there was not even a mention as to who was president or what regime sent in advisers just a note on how history repeats itself. Glad you have such faith in Obama's success record in the complete absence of one
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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Monte. You didn't forget that AQAP was always part of ISIL? You didn't think they.....were not, working with each other, did you?
    Actually ISIS has declared war on Al Qaeda. They are not working together now.

    Baghdadi had originally pledged allegiance to Al-Qaeda but subsequently declared war on the Al-Nusra Front, the Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria.

    “The caliphate means that all Muslims in the world should pledge allegiance to one caliph. This means that Al-Baghdadi has become more important than Al-Zawahiri and all leaders of jihadist organizations in the world,” Haj added.
    ISIS caliphate declaration of war against Al-Qaeda « ASHARQ AL-AWSAT

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    Re: Thoughts on Presidents Speech about ISIS and US Actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    The guy that was supposed to unite the world has **** on all our allies, they can't stand the idiot.


    What does it say about that Peace Prize when the man can't put together a coalition even as lame as the "coalition of the willing" or whatever Bush called that farce?

    Couldn't he talk Barbados into sending some toilet paper?
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