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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's an interesting piece from the American Conservative:

    What’s a Neoconservative? | The American Conservative

    According to this author, the neoconservative view of America policing the world to rid it of evil is not really traditional conservative value, but rather a liberal one:



    So, to quote a message board MC, what say ye? Are the neocons really conservatives?


    What a surprise to see most of the comments come from died-in-the-wool socialists...considering it's about conservatives I wonder if they can know what they're talking about.

    The problem with this piece is very simple. it's wrong. Dead wrong.

    It uses the views of ONE self-described neo-con as the base of whether necons are really conservative?

    I mean really, a base of one?


    Since the phrase was coined in the late 70's, it has taken on confusing meanings, usually driven by people who are NOT neocon to the point it has become meaningless to me.....

    When the Amerikcan left responds to my criticisms of Obama by accusing me of being a "Necon" in one sentence, and "Teabagger" in the next, then the word should lose all concept of even having a meaning.

    When someone can document that Mr. Rubio speaks for a majority of "neocons" then I will give credence to what I see as another attempt to distort the term
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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Congratz!

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    The shriveling continues.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    It dates back to socialists and their desire to spread democracy. However ironic that might be.

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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The shriveling continues.
    Sorry to hear that, have you tried warmer temps?

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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sorry to hear that, have you tried warmer temps?
    Keep proving my point with your sophomoric posts and infantile editing.....while you still shirk a simple challenge.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Oh get of the high horse for freaking sake. Conservatives have always expanded government.. there has not been a "fiscal conservative no government" right winger ever. What the neocons did/do is what all conservatives have always done... meddle in areas of society that will give them as much influence, power and money as possible and they use government to do so.
    Then 'all' politicians in this country are for expanded government, no matter what they say.

    I heard a rant by Dylan Ratigan on MSNBC that proclaimed as much.
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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    you still shirk a simple challenge.
    Your lack of comprehension renders me not only dumb but a coward. Whatever shall I do against such might?
    Last edited by ecofarm; 09-09-14 at 05:38 PM.

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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Then 'all' politicians in this country are for expanded government, no matter what they say.
    They most certainly are. The era of buying votes makes it so no other way is viable for the "career" politician.
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    Re: Are Neocons Really Conservatives?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Your lack of ability to comprehend renders me not only dumb but a coward. Whatever shall I do against such might?
    Ah...shift the blame.
    Cute.

    You see, I understand what a neocon is, I have debated them going back to 2002, I know about Kristol and PNAC and their members, their ideology and their results. I can even link to a simple fairly well done summary of them with little effort. I don't have to play this game of "deny the opponent" you play....because it gets nowhere.

    Again, lets see you offer anything beyond catch phrase......that is unless you want to play stupid again.
    Last edited by Gimmesometruth; 09-09-14 at 05:49 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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