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  • Indians

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Thread: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Are you Native American, I got some ancestry.

    Here are the amount of ****s I give along with 99% of all the other native americans in the world.

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    Considering an Indian designed the Skins logo and it was approved by the Council of Chiefs...I'd say the majority of people truly 'offended' are...well...not Indians. Nor do they give half a damn about the actual problems facing the Indian population. But boy...they do love thems a 'cause'.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Here's my own little poll ...
    In context ...Does anyone NOT find any of these offensive?
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    All of them are degrading.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Are you Native American, I got some ancestry.

    Here are the amount of ****s I give along with 99% of all the other native americans in the world.

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    Nope. But if someone was of Chinese descent and we called the team the "Chinks" should we name teams after that as well, even tho some Chinese people dont care?


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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Opinions on what Native Americans thought about "The Redskins" being used would have been considerably less valued a hundred years ago than even today, so "tradition" is irrelevant.
    A 2004 survey found just 9% of native Americans considered the Redskins to be racist, with a recent poll showing 67%. It would appear that it has been discovered that there could be something gained by opposition to it now.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A 2004 survey found just 9% of native Americans considered the Redskins to be racist, with a recent poll showing 67%. It would appear that it has been discovered that there could be something gained by opposition to it now.
    An interesting but ultimately irrelevant interpretation of that shift in thought.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nope. But if someone was of Chinese descent and we called the team the "Chinks" should we name teams after that as well, even tho some Chinese people dont care?
    not some, if the majority don't care, then yes we can.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    An interesting but ultimately irrelevant interpretation of that shift in thought.
    Yes it is interesting, but as one poster already suggested, lawyers and/or other outside influences are at work on native Americans for ulterior motives. The team is over one hundred years old, there is reason for suspicion given native Americans indifference for nearly a hundred years and the sudden about face. So I believe its quite relevant.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Indian tribes had a tradition of 'merging' defeated braves that fought valiantly. Of course...if they chose NOT to 'merge' they were brutalized. Their women and children were also 'merged'.
    I think the Apaches really practiced that concept. Apaches routinely merged enemies- both native and mexican who were identified as having courage and fighting skills. Also, like the Spartans, the Apaches would screen their slaves for individuals with good fighting potential and then promote them to "apache hood".


    Soemtimes, the idea back fired as one of the most lethally effective civilian cavalry scouts was a former Mexican slave who had been promoted by the Apaches. The Mexican, however, never forgot that a good part of his family was killed by the Apaches during the raid in which he was captured. He then deserted and fought against them.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes it is interesting, but as one poster already suggested, lawyers and/or other outside influences are at work on native Americans for ulterior motives. The team is over one hundred years old, there is reason for suspicion given native Americans indifference for nearly a hundred years and the sudden about face. So I believe its quite relevant.
    Indifference? Or resigned to the fact that nobody was going to give a crap what they thought and now they're saying, "Wait, you mean our opinions count now? Dayum!"

    However, our give-and-take is irrelevant as the final say goes to the Native Americans. I mean, we're allowed to discuss it, certainly...free speech and all that...it's just that in the end our opinions matter less than a warm bucket of hyena offal compared to the people those terms are used for.

    Like I said earlier, a bunch of Christians can get together and decide that "kike" isn't offensive. It doesn't mean I'm obliged to assign any value to that decision.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I would agree. the only one which stands out as a pejorative is REDSKINS. They need to change that.
    I think that Redskin is the most likely to be interpreted as offensive, but I don't think it is fair to call any of them pejoratives. I don't see anyone saying that there is any intention "to express contempt or disapproval."

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