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  • Blackhawks

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  • Braves

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  • Chiefs

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  • Illini

    3 15.79%
  • Indians

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  • Redskins

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    There was both conquering, and merging.

    For example, during the destruction of the Aztec capital, there were more native Mexicans in Cortez's army than there were Spaniards. Likewise, after the defeat of the Aztecs alot of their former vassal tribes were merged. Some probably more willingly than others.
    Indian tribes had a tradition of 'merging' defeated braves that fought valiantly. Of course...if they chose NOT to 'merge' they were brutalized. Their women and children were also 'merged'.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Whether a term is a slur or not should be dependent on whether it is being used as such. Not on what any one group thinks currently. If someone went and made a team called Crackers and did so because they like cracking heads I sure has heck wouldn't get offended. If someone made the team name Crackers just to take a shot at whites in a degrading term then yes, I'd find it offensive.

    We research history for two reasons. One is to just simply know. We are curious creatures that simply like to know everything that we can. Second is to not repeat past mistakes. Unfortunately that second part there is often ignored and is instead used to place blame and condemnation on groups of people. As such it overrides any type of intelligent thought and progress.
    I SO wish someone would start a team and pick 'Crackers' as their team name. Even if it is meant as an insult (which makes zero sense when it comes to selecting a team mascot), it would still be funny as hell.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Out of curiosity, do the Native Americans those team names reference think they're racist?
    Not the question.

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    Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

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    Please note that this thread and poll are asking for YOUR opinion. If you feel the need to defer to others and their opinions, then this thread is not a good match for you. You may choose multiple options.
    There are other threads for that question. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in one of those threads. Just a suggestion.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So? Like I said, calling me white doesn't bother me. Calling someone black if they are black doesn't bother them.

    Why do the Native Americans get to be bothered by this? Because someone told them they should. That's why. Pathetic attempt at a money grab.
    So to you this is all about politics that you do not agree with?
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not the question.

    Here, let me help you...

    There are other threads for that question. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in one of those threads. Just a suggestion.

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    Your question is irrelevant at best, a red herring at worst. I'm not Native American so my opinion doesn't matter. In fact, no non-Native-American's opinion matters.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Your question is irrelevant at best, a red herring at worst. I'm not Native American so my opinion doesn't matter. In fact, no non-Native-American's opinion matters.
    That's really nonsense, in my view. We're talking about a team like the Washington Redskins, with a proud history and tradition that's a century old, and a bunch of bleeding heart busy-bodies want to stir up unrest at the altar of the politically correct gods who self-appoint themselves arbiters of offense. The fans of the Washington Redskins own that name, own that history and tradition, and they have just as much right to be offended by attempts to paint them all as racists as some **** disturber who's got nothing better to do with their life and demands change.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I SO wish someone would start a team and pick 'Crackers' as their team name. Even if it is meant as an insult (which makes zero sense when it comes to selecting a team mascot), it would still be funny as hell.
    Never happen. It would be reduced to "Saltines" in short order.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Never happen. It would be reduced to "Saltines" in short order.
    That would be alright...we would still KNOW...and the chants would still be the same. "Lets go, cracka's!!!"

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The Fighting Sioux simply because if you say it fast, you will end up saying the fighting sucks. Which would be correct, fighting does suck, but it makes no sense to name yourself like that.
    It's not offensive, it's just a stupid name.
    How do you get fighting sucks from fighting Sioux, pronounced "sue"?

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