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  • Aztecs

    2 10.53%
  • Blackhawks

    1 5.26%
  • Braves

    1 5.26%
  • Chiefs

    1 5.26%
  • Illini

    3 15.79%
  • Indians

    2 10.53%
  • Redskins

    15 78.95%
  • Seminoles

    1 5.26%
  • (Fighting) Sioux

    2 10.53%
  • Warriors

    1 5.26%
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I would think out of any of them listed Redskins is the most offensive but it's really up to the Natives to determine what is offensive to them. So far, from what I've heard from friends is that they don't really care that much.
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    My grandpa on my dad's side is Native American, my dad can give a flying **** and my grandpa doesn't even care about American football, never mind the names of the teams.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    hmmm, that's interesting, not all native americans are the same in that regard. I guess a good amount have been so damn westernized that they call themselves Indians.
    I guess I have never really thought of that. My Native American friends do refer to themselves as Natives but the ones with Aztec ancestry always say Aztec Indian.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I guess I have never really thought of that. My Native American friends do refer to themselves as Natives but the ones with Aztec ancestry always say Aztec Indian.
    I'm assuming by natives you mean the ones who were in USA or above (tribe-wise).

    Latin America has treated natives and continues to treat natives 1000000X worse than we do here. They're treated like the untouchables in India, to be called Native American is to be insulted in some places.

    My grandpa denies his ancestry, he would beat the **** out of you if you called him Native American (yet he is 100% Native American).

    Aztecs were from Mexico and a little bit below, not too sure about them, not as worse as South America, but for all I know being native is still considered inferior.

    As I revisit my statement in this thread maybe it isn't that some are westernized, but it's that they are in denial. To be called an indian would be better than to be called a Native American, at least in some countries.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
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    My grandpa denies his ancestry, he would beat the **** out of you if you called him Native American (yet he is 100% Native American).
    How strange, maybe it's just the difference in tribes and how they perceive themselves. My native friends (yes from the US) are very into their culture, they do pow wows and spend alot of time on reservations so I wonder if it's location or tribe. Maybe I will ask them later what they think.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Ask natives, their opinion is the only one that counts to me in this matter.

    Why on Earth would I care what some white guy (for example) thinks about the word 'Seminole'...it has nothing directly to do with him?

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    I'm assuming by natives you mean the ones who were in USA or above (tribe-wise).

    Latin America has treated natives and continues to treat natives 1000000X worse than we do here. They're treated like the untouchables in India, to be called Native American is to be insulted in some places.

    My grandpa denies his ancestry, he would beat the **** out of you if you called him Native American (yet he is 100% Native American).

    Aztecs were from Mexico and a little bit below, not too sure about them, not as worse as South America, but for all I know being native is still considered inferior.

    As I revisit my statement in this thread maybe it isn't that some are westernized, but it's that they are in denial. To be called an indian would be better than to be called a Native American, at least in some countries.
    Indio, Spanish for Indian, is a pejorative term in South America. They prefer to be called "cholitos", at least in Bolivia. As for the treatment of the natives there, check out Evo Morales and the changes he's made in that country.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Indio, Spanish for Indian, is a pejorative term in South America. They prefer to be called "cholitos", at least in Bolivia. As for the treatment of the natives there, check out Evo Morales and the changes he's made in that country.
    You're not equating Bolivia, one of the smallest countries, with all of South America yes? As for Native treatment in South America, they were treated like ****. The last time anyone in my family was there was a little over a decade ago, who knows, maybe something changed.

    However, my father would tell me the stories of the Native Americans who were treated like dirt up until old age. They were forced to act as mules, carrying extremely heavy things uphill, and when they were finished, their backs became permanently bent, destroyed by the inhumane labour that was essentially forced upon them.

    He is Ecuadorian, and this was Ecuador, I cannot say much for Bolivia, but across Latin America in general, Natives were never liked.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Aztecs
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    Braves
    Chiefs
    Illini
    Indians
    Redskins
    Seminoles
    (Fighting) Sioux
    Warriors

    Please note that this thread and poll are asking for YOUR opinion. If you feel the need to defer to others and their opinions, then this thread is not a good match for you. You may choose multiple options.

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    None of them is an "Indian" title or even a word.

    The term "Indian" comes from a sailor who was lost at sea and rescued by dark skinned people, He thought he was 15,000 miles away from where he really was...and thus every native discovered in the Americas was thought to be "Indian"

    An offensive "Indian" name would be the "Punjabi's" or even more humiliating "The Paki's" as it refers to people from Pakistan.


    Here is my question...is the name "Scalphunters" an offense to American Fist Nations?
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    none of the above

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    None of them.
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