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  • Aztecs

    2 10.53%
  • Blackhawks

    1 5.26%
  • Braves

    1 5.26%
  • Chiefs

    1 5.26%
  • Illini

    3 15.79%
  • Indians

    2 10.53%
  • Redskins

    15 78.95%
  • Seminoles

    1 5.26%
  • (Fighting) Sioux

    2 10.53%
  • Warriors

    1 5.26%
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    This is what I was going to say -- it doesn't matter if we find it offensive. It's what they find offensive that matters.

    Personally I don't see why any of it would be considered offensive. They've been called "red men" for as long as I've been alive, and only recently, in this "touchy, feely, everybody gets a trophy" world did they seem to become vocal over it. Could be a case of, "How dare those white devils call you this? You should be upset!!" 50 to 1, it started out with a lawyer.
    As for why the complaints are only recent (if they are only recent), it reminds me of when I was a child in the segregated deep south. I could see that blacks were discriminated against, couldn't get good jobs, had to sit at back of the buses, couldn't eat at the diners, etc. I wondered why they didn't say something about it. My child's brain deduced that the blacks must agree with it, and it must be true that they are rightly segregated, or they would say something.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    "Indian" is one of the races. So there's nothing offensive about that. Indian, caucasian, negro (or black), Asian. Are those all the races? I think so.

    "Native American" is a term we in America use for the race & ethnicity of those who are descended from the original inhabitants of North America, I believe. Their race is "Indian" or mainly Indian.

    Aztecs were of the Indian race and originated in South or Central America, and mixed with the Spanish, which is why Central and South American hispanics are darker and shorter than hispanics from Spain and other areas.

    That's my understanding, anyway.
    It's not that Indian is offensive, it's just moronic to use it for people who aren't from India.

    Again, does it look like we have red dots on our head?

    No, Indians come from India.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    As for why the complaints are only recent (if they are only recent), it reminds me of when I was a child in the segregated deep south. I could see that blacks were discriminated against, couldn't get good jobs, had to sit at back of the buses, couldn't eat at the diners, etc. I wondered why they didn't say something about it. My child's brain deduced that the blacks must agree with it, and it must be true that they are rightly segregated, or they would say something.

    How silly a child's brain is.
    Redskin isn't offensive, only for the moron Natives who squabble over that rather than realize the atrocity that is the treatment of Native Americans in South America and the terrible issues plaguing Native populations in the USA (like gambling, alcohol abuse, sex abuse rates).
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Aztecs
    Blackhawks
    Braves
    Chiefs
    Illini
    Indians
    Redskins
    Seminoles
    (Fighting) Sioux
    Warriors

    Please note that this thread and poll are asking for YOUR opinion. If you feel the need to defer to others and their opinions, then this thread is not a good match for you. You may choose multiple options.

    "None" would mean not choosing any of them.
    Eh. "Redskin" would be the only one that comes anywhere close.

    Frankly, however, I don't think it's anywhere near an offensive enough slur to warrant removing the name.

    Now, if you wanted to name a Basketball team "The N*****s," on the other hand...

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Actually, where is the option for "people need to grow up and stop being offended at stupid things"? You know... sticks and stones and all that?
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course it's been my opinion, and you, have you offered up anything other? It most certainly is my opinion that the about face is outside groups and individuals influencing the Indians about this. Its fact that in the time of a decade, they went from not caring at all, to caring a whole hell of a lot. That IS suspicious to me.
    I haven't offered up an opinion because there's no information to base any such opinion on. If I don't like the taste of a pot pie, I know I don't like it because it leaves an unpleasant sensation on my taste buds. So while my opinion of said pot pie may be just my opinion, it's an opinion that comes from something. Your opinion, however, is completely ****ing retarded, because it comes from nothing at all.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    NONE-why would anyone name a sports team with an insult

    people name sports teams after the fierce, the skillful or the brave

    ever heard of a HS team called the

    WIMPS

    Fairies

    Cupcakes

    Nerds

    weenies

    tinkerbelles

    picking Native American names was a compliment to them



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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Mittner View Post
    Only the Redskins are on my list as seeing it reasonably offensive (it's hard to offend me)
    From a intellectual level I'm kind of offended by "Indians", since that was Columbus being stupid and our own stubbornness refusing to correct it.
    Next on my list would be all the teams named after an actual tribe, but not worth voting on.

    The only ones I find to be completely devoid of any racial undertones would be the ones like the Warriors, Chiefs, Braves. Those are just jobs.
    Philadelphia/San Francisco/Golden State Warriors used to use Indian imagery, hence their inclusion. They dropped the imagery 10-15 years ago.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Philadelphia/San Francisco/Golden State Warriors used to use Indian imagery, hence their inclusion. They dropped the imagery 10-15 years ago.
    Well, mascots weren't explained in the poll options so I voted just based on names.
    I have little doubt that at least a few of the mascots or other merchandise could easily cross the threshold into offensive, even when the team names do not.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Aztecs
    Blackhawks
    Braves
    Chiefs
    Illini
    Indians
    Redskins
    Seminoles
    (Fighting) Sioux
    Warriors

    Please note that this thread and poll are asking for YOUR opinion. If you feel the need to defer to others and their opinions, then this thread is not a good match for you. You may choose multiple options.

    "None" would mean not choosing any of them.
    Names only? Redskins. The Cleveland Indians logo is pretty offensive but the name isn't.
    Bottom line is, if you're not Native American you're not entitled to an opinion. If the old guy across the lane told you he didn't like the term, 'wop', would you say that it's not offensive and call him a wop anyway? Even if you're Italian you need to respect his sensibilities.
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