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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It is a case of "life has become too easy and they have nothing better to do"
    Oh, I don't think that life has become too easy for them. Lots of Native Americans still have it really, really hard.

    I do think that some slick-talking snake-oil salesman came along and sold them a bill of goods, and they believed him.




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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Oh, I don't think that life has become too easy for them. Lots of Native Americans still have it really, really hard.

    I do think that some slick-talking snake-oil salesman came along and sold them a bill of goods, and they believed him.
    Some yes, but not the ones complaining.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I know it wasn't serious, and that's why I didn't feel it was necessary to seriously address it.



    Hmmm...I'm no copyright/trademark lawyer, but I don't see how that's going to hold up on appeal.
    I agree - seems free speech these days is only free if it's also agreed with and supported by the loudest, most powerful voices.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Here is what I find odd.

    The US government took action against the name Redskins. If the same group complained, for whatever reason, about the name of the state of Indiana, would the US government take action against the state?

    Their name is Indian related.
    Or Oklahoma, which translates to "red people" (okla=people, humma=red).

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Some yes, but not the ones complaining.
    Most yes, refer to my earlier posts, the ones complaining are stupid, yet hardly a single percent of the native population in the Americas I would argue.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Unless I missed it, I didn't see in either of your links any kind of explanation for the shift in opinion, except for the possibly revealing tidbit that the original poll didn't include Hawaii and, particularly significantly, Alaska.
    What's your point there? I don't think I ever mentioned that they did. My whole point in this is that the native Americans magically went from not caring about this at all, to caring a whole bunch, in a decade!!
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Public thought on things change all the time. I'm more interested in their reasons for that shift than yours, respectfully speaking.
    "All the Time" public thought goes from 91% for something to 68% against something, in ten years! Sorry, but, no it doesn't.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    That would be alright...we would still KNOW...and the chants would still be the same. "Lets go, cracka's!!!"
    I always thought Honkeys would be cool, I love the way it rolls off the tongue and I've got some great ideas for merchandise! Just think of a stadium filled with 80,000 screaming fans in unison chanting HONKEY, HONKEY, HONKEY! I get chills just thinking about it.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    I always thought Honkeys would be cool, I love the way it rolls off the tongue and I've got some great ideas for merchandise! Just think of a stadium filled with 80,000 screaming fans in unison chanting HONKEY, HONKEY, HONKEY! I get chills just thinking about it.
    I know who can host the post game party...


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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What's your point there? I don't think I ever mentioned that they did. My whole point in this is that the native Americans magically went from not caring about this at all, to caring a whole bunch, in a decade!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    "All the Time" public thought goes from 91% for something to 68% against something, in ten years! Sorry, but, no it doesn't.
    Well, obviously the explanation isn't magical. Also, the original poll excluded Alaska and Hawaii, so I don't know what the real number would have been, but it would have been different. Point is, neither you nor I know the reason for the shift, and assuming the reason is money is presumptuous and built on ignorance.

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