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  • Blackhawks

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  • Braves

    1 5.26%
  • Chiefs

    1 5.26%
  • Illini

    3 15.79%
  • Indians

    2 10.53%
  • Redskins

    15 78.95%
  • Seminoles

    1 5.26%
  • (Fighting) Sioux

    2 10.53%
  • Warriors

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Fortunately for you there are rules against racist and hate language on this forum, so if you genuinely feel this way I would strongly suggest you take it up with the moderators.
    It's not a serious concern of mine, just as the ones who claim to speak for Native Americans aren't serious - I was simply trying to make a point. According to your previous comments, your opinion regarding whether or not my "offense" is valid would be irrelevant because you're not the one supposedly being offended - only my opinion would count because I'm supposedly offended by papist references.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    And it is a bird, and I hate birds. That makes 2 of us.
    Remember, hate doesn't count as an emotion in this discussion - would be better if you said "and it is a bird, and birds offend my tender sensibilities".
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Remember, hate doesn't count as an emotion in this discussion - would be better if you said "and it is a bird, and birds offend my tender sensibilities".
    Maybe, but hate seems to be the best word here. I don't have tender sensibilities. I hate birds for many reasons.

    I wish my 3 cats were hunters. Maybe I should stop feeding them so they would eat more birds.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    1 player? Is there another almost white sport out there?
    That was one player from the 60's and do we HAVE to be serious about this???

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's not a serious concern of mine,
    I know it wasn't serious, and that's why I didn't feel it was necessary to seriously address it.

    Hmmm...I'm no copyright/trademark lawyer, but I don't see how that's going to hold up on appeal.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    I think "Chiefs" is a stupid name. You can't have a team of Chiefs. They should rename it to "Chief and the braves". Or maybe just "Chefs". It rolls of the tongue better.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A 2004 National Annenberg Election Survey question on whether the name of the Washington Redskins is offensive to Native Americans is in the news amid renewed national debate over whether the pro football team should change its name. In a letter to fans published in the Washington Post on Wednesday, Oct. 9, team owner Daniel Snyder cited the survey as key evidence in support of the name. “The highly respected Annenberg Public Policy Center polled nearly 1,000 self-identified Native Americans from across the continental U.S. and found that 90% of Native Americans did not find the team name ‘Washington Redskins’ to be ‘offensive,’ ” Snyder wrote.

    ‘Redskins’ question in 2004 Annenberg study cited anew in controversy – The Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania

    A recent study by the California State University, San Bernadino reports 67% of Native Americans find the Washington Redskins name and imagery racist.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler...l-slur#1e9uhmb
    Unless I missed it, I didn't see in either of your links any kind of explanation for the shift in opinion, except for the possibly revealing tidbit that the original poll didn't include Hawaii and, particularly significantly, Alaska.

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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    I think "Chiefs" is a stupid name. You can't have a team of Chiefs. They should rename it to "Chief and the braves". Or maybe just "Chefs". It rolls of the tongue better.
    This made me laugh.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    The Sioux name was divisive (even among the Sioux tribes), but what especially inflamed the situation was the inherent hypocrisy of the administration and the Sioux fans claiming that the name honored and respected the tribe, while there was (and is) a serious racial divide and hostility on the campus. It was difficult to claim it was such an honor when thick racism was not hard to find among the Minnesotan and North Dakotan student body attending the campus (let alone the greater North Dakotan society). I can straight up declare that racial problems between whites and the native population is huge here. To say it did not play a big factor in the culture war over the logo or the name is ridiculous.

    At the time, it was largely a money issue that became tangled with a culture war. Eventually when it became clear that the NCAA was not going to give in, both the Engelstad Foundation and the University had to move on. I personally did not care about the logo or the name itself (had the hypocrisy not been there, I would have been fine with both remaining, provided there was no serious punishment from the NCAA), but I found the amount of money and political capital being used to maintain a logo and a name at the same time as being denied hosting tournaments to be completely counterproductive for the community and the University. I was happy to see the logo and the name go so both the University and the city could move on and make more money.
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    Re: Which of these Indian mascot/team names do you believe to be offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So to you this is all about politics that you do not agree with?
    Where did you see in my comment that I felt that this was about politics that I did not believe in?

    I am not like others - I don't automatically throw around, "Them damn libruls," or "Those crazy CONservatives" if somebody says something I don't believe in.
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