View Poll Results: Which is Worse?

Voters
50. You may not vote on this poll
  • Threat #1

    12 24.00%
  • Threat #2

    14 28.00%
  • Threat #3

    11 22.00%
  • All the above

    5 10.00%
  • None

    6 12.00%
  • Other

    9 18.00%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst ... 34567 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 64

Thread: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

  1. #41
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:07 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,854

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Theoretically, but that would not be very good for business or for foreign relations.
    To temporarily close them?

    Well I'm sure you're right tho, because $$$ will always come first.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  2. #42
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    So I have to choose? I'll take door number three. I think disease is a greater danger than the other two. The other two we can control. A disease, perhaps not so much.
    Oddly, I had the opposite reaction, because I'm fairly sure we already know how to control the current ebola outbreak, but I have no way of knowing whether we have the slightest clue how to contain the other issues.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  3. #43
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:07 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,854

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Oddly, I had the opposite reaction, because I'm fairly sure we already know how to control the current ebola outbreak, but I have no way of knowing whether we have the slightest clue how to contain the other issues.
    We dont even know the reservoir for Ebola....if it comes over here and finds a similar host....we could be screwed.

    The disease has never circulated in any population in the numbers it has in this outbreak in Africa. This opens up more and more chances for the virus to change to fit it's new opportunities. Yes, mutate....most viruses do to some degree in virulence, back and forth....but it could also change in transmission/vectors.

    If that happens...it will be very very ugly here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  4. #44
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:53 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    63,918

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Which of these ongoing potential problems is worse and more likely?


    Threat #1

    Conventional conflict over Ukraine with NATO and US, possibly escalating to nuclear war with Russia..


    -- Russia says they're trying to support a truce in Ukraine, but by announcing new sanctions that are expected to be formally approved on Monday, the EU's leadership "is practically sending a signal of direct support to the 'party of war' in Kiev.

    Britain said on Friday it could contribute 3,500 troops to a NATO rapid response force defending against new threats like the Ukraine crisis. The rapid reaction force is meant to reassure former Soviet satellites such as Poland and the Baltic states that fear an emboldened Russia will turn its sights on them. --


    Threat #2

    ISIS attacks on US soil with devastating results, possibly even knocking out the power grid, crippling the US for months..


    --
    When Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned last month that the Islamic State (IS) is an “imminent” threat to the United States, a number of lawmakers and analysts seized upon that claim.

    “This is really the first group that has the wherewithal in terms of financing” to potentially strike on US soil, said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) of California, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee. IS, also called ISIS and ISIL, has “heavy equipment, heavy explosives, the ability to move quickly.”

    Indeed, many have argued that IS now represents a far greater prospect of peril to US interests than Al Qaeda does. --


    Threat #3

    Ebola virus spreading slowly thru the US, possibly becoming more infectious thru mutation.
    Z-mapp and other inoculations either can't be manufactured fast enough or lose effectiveness..


    -- Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" that the Ebola outbreak, which has killed 2,100 people in African five countries, was unlikely to spread to the United States in the short term.

    But he added there could be implications if Washington and other powers did not send urgently needed equipment, public health workers and other supplies to the region.

    "If we don't make that effort now, and this spreads not just through Africa but other parts of the world, there's the prospect then that the virus mutates. It becomes more easily transmittable," he said in the interview broadcast on Sunday.

    "And then it could be a serious danger to the United States," he added. --
    I think that the militarization of the police and gang violence in the USA are far worse than ISIS could be in 100 years of trying. Russia will evolve into nothing with the USA but Ebola could be a problem buy I doubt it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

  5. #45
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think that the militarization of the police and gang violence in the USA are far worse than ISIS could be in 100 years of trying. Russia will evolve into nothing with the USA but Ebola could be a problem buy I doubt it.
    Militarized Police and violent gangs are a small and isolated issue for now. The problem with protests and riots are that crowds can't sustain them for any period and also provide for their daily needs. This eventually pressures them to break up and return to living routines for subsistence.

    Ebola, from what we're now hearing will probably continue to spread but it won't be a big population killer. It'll have a larger geographical area to emerge from occasionally, like HIV or HepC but with big pharma's working on a vaccine, it'll likely be tamped down. Unless, it suddenly mutates into a more virulent and airborne version, unlikely.

    Russia fighting for gas and oil resources could be a problem if someone miscalculates a military move. But we've been, essentially, playing geopolitical chess with them for the past 60 years. I think the worst thing that might actually happen is a series of economic sanctions that could cause unforeseen, domino effects in the global markets, affecting everyone.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  6. #46
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Last Seen
    10-30-14 @ 08:19 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    202

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Immigration is much worse. Together with immigrants there is illegal flow of drugs, weapons, prohibited stimulant drugs. Children immigration - a complex of problems associated with prostitution, child labor. And moreover - Obama is the greatest threat for the country

  7. #47
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    Immigration is much worse. Together with immigrants there is illegal flow of drugs, weapons, prohibited stimulant drugs. Children immigration - a complex of problems associated with prostitution, child labor. And moreover - Obama is the greatest threat for the country
    I agree that something like the illegal immigration problem, if gone unchecked, is a larger potential threat to the stability of the south western region of the US in the long run. It's such a political 'hot potato' for sensitive voting blocks and low wage labor positions that they don't want to really address the issue.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  8. #48
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Thread update:


    Several analysts said Russia is already carving out a mini-state which would allow it to keep up the pressure on Kiev, as it has done in Georgia, where Moscow backed two separatist republics in the conflict there in 2008, and in Transdniestr, the Moldovan region where the Kremlin has also backed separatists.

    NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Monday that the "long-term ambition of Russia is to establish a zone of influence in its near neighborhood" and stop bordering countries from joining alliances such as the EU or NATO.

    How far is Putin prepared to go in Ukraine?

    Western/EU sanctions are having an impact on the ruble and Russian economy. But Russia is patient and knows we have our hands full. I suspect they'll annex at least Crimea and an Eastern portion of the Ukraine. "The Ukranian economy would be devastated by any such move, which would cost the country seven seaports including Odessa as well as two nuclear power stations, with an estimated loss of 27 percent of gross domestic product (GDP)."




    A series of mysterious airstrikes, which U.S. officials have previously said were carried out by Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, have reinforced the perception that Libya has become a proxy battleground for larger regional struggles -- with Turkey and Qatar backing the Islamist militias and Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the UAE supporting their opponents.

    With the United States building an international coalition to confront the radical Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria, Egypt has been pressing for an expansion of the coalition's focus to battle Libya's militias as well.

    Egypt's Foreign Minister Sameh Shukri told an international security conference in Paris on Monday that the two conflicts were linked. Referring to the Islamic State group by its Arabic acronym "Daesh."

    http://news.yahoo.com/mystery-airstr...142139798.html

    I guess the US support of the 'Arab Spring', removing dictators and spreading democracy isn't working out to well? How many countries are involved in the ME strife and our 'War on Terror', Qatar, Turkey, Lybia, Tunisia, Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Jordan, Israel. We may not have created the sectarian violence and Islamic extremism of this region, but we sure haven't help reduce it.

    Apparently, we're we back in War or were we never really out? What a high price our revenge has cost us.




    The unprecedented Ebola outbreak in West Africa requires a $1 billion response to keep its spread within the "tens of thousands" of cases, United Nations officials said on Tuesday. The outbreak is now out of control and the U.S. is planning to send in military personnel and equipment as part of the international effort to try and bring it under control.

    "Quite frankly, ladies and gentlemen, this health crisis we're facing is unparalleled in modern times," Aylward told a news conference in Geneva. "We don't know where the numbers are going on this."

    Ebola cases may be kept within tens of thousands, WHO says

    Ebola has spread in the unsanitary conditions of West Africa, and researchers fear that given time the virus may evolve the ability to be transmitted through the air.

    Though many in the developed world are understandably fearful of the disease, many health officials claim that the only reason this particular outbreak has grown as large as it has is because of where it hit. The areas that have been hit the hardest lack sufficient health care systems and are unable to provide necessary treatment for the patients or personal protective equipment for health care workers. Unsanitary conditions have allowed the outbreak to grow incredibly rapid.

    Ten Things You Really Should Know About Ebola | IFLScience

    Ironic, that the very poverty stricken areas of the world without proper plumbing, healthcare and unsanitary practices, caused a disease that can reach the uncaring, wealthy elite. A virus does not recognize someones superior work ethic, attitude and fortune. It's an equal opportunity killer, and simply trying to cut off and quarantine the poor areas will eventually fail, because a pathogen can always find a way out.

    Maybe spending the trillions, wasted on war and hoarding, instead on global healthcare, education and better living conditions would've caused less problems? Nah, go ahead and tell me why that's wrong?
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  9. #49
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    Thread bump:

    Over a month ago, I created this thread listing the 3 top worries for the World and US, was I right or what? ... j/k

    Should've added a fourth about Market instability, due to all these problems.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  10. #50
    Black Is Smart
    Van Basten's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    The New New Frontier
    Last Seen
    11-06-17 @ 07:59 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    4,661

    Re: Russia, ISIS or Ebola?

    None of these have any possibility of happening, especially not the ISIS and Ebola "threat" you speak of.
    "We have more responsibility than power, I think. The newspaper can create great controversies, stir up arguments within the community or discussion, can throw light on injustices....just as it can do the opposite. It can hide things and be a great power for evil." -- Rupert Murdoch, 1968

Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst ... 34567 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •