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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Why not simply use a VOTE as your means of voice?
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Why not simply use a VOTE as your means of voice?
    I do.

    But I get the feeling, mistaken or not, that I'm drowned out by people with more money who can pay for ads which may or may not be factually correct, and almost surely spin things to support their candidate.

    No political ads, that's the ticket...
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I do.

    But I get the feeling, mistaken or not, that I'm drowned out by people with more money who can pay for ads which may or may not be factually correct, and almost surely spin things to support their candidate.

    No political ads, that's the ticket...
    Impossible.

    Publicaly funded campaigns.

    THAT'S the ticket. Equal money for all who apply for the job.
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Wow...so only those you agree with?

    Restricting what people can spend on the political process is like being a mullah in Iran. It goes against the very fiber of being FREE.


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    Depends what's behind the words.

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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    The way I see it is a bit different. If they are already bought and paid for anyway, then no amount of law is going to make them stop. So why not allow for more individual donations to somewhat level the playing field? Ever wonder why populist groups are most vocal around elections? Or how come attack ads against corporations come at exactly election time, but hardly any other time otherwise? If individuals were allowed to donate more maybe, these groups would actually lose funding and public awareness about the politicians' friends would increase. It's a step in the right direction to your ultimatum. Ban all money from campaigns cannot be accomplished without this task. Just the same way as you cannot ban all lobbyists without lawyers (who are friends w/lobbyists)
    You can never level the playing field, not when corporations can pay millions of dollars to buy politicians. The only way to fix the problem is to eliminate the money. If we stop allowing anyone, corporations and citizens alike, to pay money directly into a politician's coffers, if we stop them from taking *ANY* money from *ANYONE*, then there is no undue influence from special interests.
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You can never level the playing field, not when corporations can pay millions of dollars to buy politicians. The only way to fix the problem is to eliminate the money. If we stop allowing anyone, corporations and citizens alike, to pay money directly into a politician's coffers, if we stop them from taking *ANY* money from *ANYONE*, then there is no undue influence from special interests.
    While that sounds nice. It's never going to happen and you know this. However, a sane approach to fixing the problem is to allow individuals to donate more money. Some rich folks may not want their businesses attached to a politician, but they don't mind if their own money will be. Some middle class people may be able to pull more money together and help elect the person they want to win. This will also eliminate any such political corruption scandals because the politician himself will be held responsible for stealing the money the people gave to him specifically. If the politician decides to steal that money and use it for other non-campaign purposes, people will see right through that. It's just harder to tell because political organizations have messy books and it's unclear what is or isn't "political spending." There will be no need to set up super pacs or political organizations because money will be flowing directly to the politicians from the public.
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    How about we just get money out of the picture period? Deny all donations period. Require networks to give equal airtime to all those running for X office. No ads allowed. In this day and age no one needs to travel to be heard. Have a simple Q&A website set up, paid for by taxpayer money, in which people may ask a question and be answered by X politician that is running. One website for POTUS, one website set up for the Senate, one website setup for Congress, one website setup for state positions, one website set up for local positions. These websites can be changed to reflect the times and situations that occur. Make it kind of like a forum that people may join. People may post a question and then no one else may post in that thread with the exception of those that are running for X position.

    Just a suggestion. I'm sure that there will be those against it due to the complications of such a setup and the cost to the taxpayers. But this along with requiring full disclosure of the politicians finances throughout their entire life it should stop much of the corruption caused by money. Also nothing is ever perfect. There will always be some loophole. We just have to actually close them as we become aware of them.
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Start by having Congress pass the DISCLOSE Act and voting any of them out who oppose it.
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Wow...so only those you agree with?

    Restricting what people can spend on the political process is like being a mullah in Iran. It goes against the very fiber of being FREE.
    You misunderstand.

    It depends what's behind the words of whatever law/rule is made to address issues in campaign finance.

    For example if the words say one thing, but leave loopholes that allow the opposite.
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    Re: Would you support Campaign Finance Reform?

    Restrict the use of money to propel a speech and you restrict the speech. If the left had their way only a union could donate to a campaign and only their media would have unlimited abilities to get out a message. Then we wouldn't have a free country but something similar to an Iranian / Iraqi state.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    You misunderstand.

    It depends what's behind the words of whatever law/rule is made to address issues in campaign finance.

    For example if the words say one thing, but leave loopholes that allow the opposite.

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