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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    You're not very familiar with modern studies of foreign affairs are you? Or for that matter that of the last 200 years?
    I think its more the fact that I don't swallow the swill provided by leftist 'authorities' on foreign affairs. Unlike you, apparently. If I hated my country and everything it does as much as you do, I'd leave. I'm sure your attitude about the United States would make you incredibly popular in places like Russia or North Korea or Iran or ....well, you name any anti-American despotic regime and they'd love you.

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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    We must be the worst imperialistic country in the world to have ever existed. We still have 50 states and last I checked.. We invade, then give countries back to the people in good faith that they will take control. Imperialistic countries have never done that in world history. At least not before completely controlling them for long periods of time and claiming them as their territory.
    YOu only have to check on who's calling us Imperialists. They're the US bashers, and you can find them anywhere. Especially here.
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Are we imperialist country? Absolutely. Do we practice traditional imperialism? No. Its a neo-imperialism.
    another pet phrase of the left - neo-Imperialism. It's one they invented when they realized that the Imperialist label was a crock of ****.
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    YOu only have to check on who's calling us Imperialists. They're the US bashers, and you can find them anywhere. Especially here.
    Well, there are certainly no shortage of things the US could and should be criticized for. I could probably write a book that would dwarf war and peace on the number of things the US gets wrong as well as the many problems that exist in American culture. But overall, the US is at best benign, only because it is so terrible at being an imperialist power as many claim it to be.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You are correct that the British military generally followed British merchants, but the idea that they did not defeat local armed forces in order to gain and secure territory is flatly not true. Typically the expansion in India, for example, was marked by taking advantage of chaos during a period of succession in neighboring areas to move in and defeat often divided forces. Similarly in America, the British absolutely fought and defeated the local Natives in pitched and quite bloody conflict.

    Boer War sound familiar at all? Battle of Omdurman? Sepoy Rebellion? Opium War? The Australian Aborigines didn't enter into a co-op with you, they were driven out.

    The British Empire was the most liberal of the Classic Empires, certainly. But there is a reason that the old saying that "Whatever happens, We have got, The Maxim Gun, and they have not" is a British one.
    Sorry CP, but if you are looking for a nationalistic argument on this, you won't be getting one from me. I am not a supporter of imperialism in any of its forms, and I am not in the process of whitewashing the British Empire. I was merely stating a fairly well known fact that Britain's empire started life as a trading entity, which was duly shorn up in the course of time by means of a considerable military. I was not drawing favourable or unfavourable comparisons with any other empires (including yours).
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A third-grader's world view.
    we the baws.

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