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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Truth About the CIA and Iran | Foreign Affairs

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    RAY TAKEYH is Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. See more by this author. From our July/August 2014 Issue.

    As a courtesy I followed and would have to join to read the entire article, so only read the first page. The CIA, as you know so well, is not famous for truth so the title of the article is an oxymoron in itself. Another note, the CFR is a Rockefeller, the same Rockefeller from United Fruit Corp., funded think tank, not a govermental organization. But using a working plantation owner in a banana Republic as a reference to respectability and truth is willfully deceptive.

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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    As a courtesy I followed and would have to join to read the entire article, so only read the first page. The CIA, as you know so well, is not famous for truth so the title of the article is an oxymoron in itself. Another note, the CFR is a Rockefeller, the same Rockefeller from United Fruit Corp., funded think tank, not a govermental organization. But using a working plantation owner in a banana Republic as a reference to respectability and truth is willfully deceptive.
    The entire article is available at the link.
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    By definition, to be an imperial power it would need colonies.

    The US is a former colony and is by it`s history of being that and bringing down some of the greatest imperial powers a antiimperialist country.

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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We sure are.

    Did you have another question or is that the end of the thread?
    Yea, it's a pretty quick and easy question. Not sure what the OP expected out of this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    By definition, to be an imperial power it would need colonies.

    The US is a former colony and is by it`s history of being that and bringing down some of the greatest imperial powers a antiimperialist country.
    By the most basic definition, sure, that would be true.
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The War Machine in the USA has profitted handsomely from Libya, Afghanistan and Libya and so have the Big Energy Corporations because wars run on Big Energy so the first profits of war go to Big Energy. Then, as with these three countries, profits are generated in leasing, transporting, refining and retailing the hegemonically stolen energy assets. You must have the USA confused with an MSM portrayal as "the White Knight on the Hill," instead of the resource grabbers with buckets of funny money, Eh?
    Did we invade Libya twice?
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Did we invade Libya twice?
    You could say that since we've sent that Langley resident, Haftar, to mop up over there. Actually, three was Iraq, pretty transparent anyway.

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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Did we invade Libya twice?
    I recall the US bombing Libya in the Regan administration, once the Lockerbie airliner bombing was traced back to their state spy agency.

    Then, there would be that 'leading from behind' thing that'd be hard to call any sort of invasion by any stretch.

    True, back in WW II the Libyan desert was the theater for the British and German amour going at each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I recall the US bombing Libya in the Regan administration, once the Lockerbie airliner bombing was traced back to their state spy agency.

    Then, there would be that 'leading from behind' thing that'd be hard to call any sort of invasion by any stretch.

    True, back in WW II the Libyan desert was the theater for the British and German amour going at each other.

    Have I missed anything?
    For the record, Lockerbie was later. Reagan bombed Libya because of a bombing of a disco in Berlin where US servicemen were killed. That was traced to Libyans.
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    Re: Imperialistic America

    I wasn't aware that the U.S., Shah Pahlavi, or anyone else had Mohammed Mossadegh killed.

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    Re: Imperialistic America

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    How many have we kept?
    That doesn't matter; just like with a stroke, it's the initial insult that counts.
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