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    Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Some people may call this religion Judaism, Israelites, Yawehism or something else. I am referring to the ancient religion that is derived from the first five books of the Bible.

    When you read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy do you view a society of peaceful individuals? Are you able to visualize this ancient religion without mixing your ideas of modern Judaism?

    When I read the first five books of the Bible I see a religion very violent in nature and similar to Islam. It makes it very clear to me why these two tribes insist on killing each other all the time.

    Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    The only difference in terms of violence between Christianity and Islam is that most of the violence and genocide in Christianity occurs earlier in scripture while most of the violence in Islam occurs later in the Koran.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Numbers 31:7-18 NLT
    They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
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    If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city.
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    Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" 24When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 He went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
    The bible describes Yahweh as a war god who enjoys shedding blood and hearing the screams of souls from hell. Definitely not a religion of peace.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The only difference in terms of violence between Christianity and Islam is that most of the violence and genocide in Christianity occurs earlier in scripture while most of the violence in Islam occurs later in the Koran.
    What do you mean by Christian scripture? Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy does not constitute Christian scripture. Jesus despised the traditions of old. There are some violent references in the New Testament but they are a lot more subtle than the Old Testament references.

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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Some people may call this religion Judaism, Israelites, Yawehism or something else. I am referring to the ancient religion that is derived from the first five books of the Bible.

    When you read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy do you view a society of peaceful individuals? Are you able to visualize this ancient religion without mixing your ideas of modern Judaism?

    When I read the first five books of the Bible I see a religion very violent in nature and similar to Islam. It makes it very clear to me why these two tribes insist on killing each other all the time.

    Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?
    "Yahwehism" (how Bizarre) came about app 2000 Years earlier than Islam.

    Mohammed and immediate successor Cleansed, Converted, or Killed, All the Jews [peacefully living] on the Arabian Peninsula.
    Mecca, and especially Medina/Yathrib, were in very good part Jewish. Aqaba less so.
    The 'evilness' of Jews is Part of the Koran.
    And despite also being 'people of the book', Christians too are foes.
    And of course so are Pagans: Hindus and Buddhists.

    [al-Ma'idah 5:51.8] O ye who believe! Take NOT the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not Wrongdoing folk.

    While the Jew's OT enemies are long since gone, Jews didn't/don't want a worldwide Caliphate, and don't prosletyze.
    The koran's enemies are still here.. US.

    Pretty Silly try at Moral Equivalence with the Islam poll.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    "Yahwehism" (how Bizarre) came about app 2000 Years earlier than Islam.
    Judaism was a sect for those born from the tribe of Judah. Judaism excludes the remaining 11 tribes. I still don't know the proper terminology for this ancient religion even though many people call it Judaism. Is there a better term rather than Yahwehism?

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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    While the Jew's OT enemies are long since gone, ....................

    Pretty Silly try at Moral Equivalence with the Islam poll.
    No other religion is allowed to exist within the borders of Israel. All temples and peoples worshipping other gods are to be destroyed. However, non-religious people are allowed to exist within the borders of Israel. This may be different than Islam.

    According to Israeli tradition and Kosher law Islamic Mosques and Christian churches are to be destroyed within the borders of Israel. People are supposed to be executed for practicing a different religion or trying to convert someone to a different religion. Have you ever read the first 5 books of the Bible? It has been very accurately translated from the original Hebrew Texts.

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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The only difference in terms of violence between Christianity and Islam is that most of the violence and genocide in Christianity occurs earlier in scripture while most of the violence in Islam occurs later in the Koran.
    The only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity has had 500 more years to be neutered by secular society than Islam has. In another 500 years, Islam will have been forced to grow up a little more, like Christianity has, and will stop acting like a bunch of petulant children. Neither religion has, or will, gone quietly into peace. Both would go out and kill people in a second if given half a chance.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity has had 500 more years to be neutered by secular society than Islam has. In another 500 years, Islam will have been forced to grow up a little more, like Christianity has, and will stop acting like a bunch of petulant children. Neither religion has, or will, gone quietly into peace. Both would go out and kill people in a second if given half a chance.
    I do agree with that to an extent. I would imagine the historical body count for Christians exceeds all other religions (mostly because historically there have been more Christians).
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    "Yahwehism" (how Bizarre) came about app 2000 Years earlier than Islam.

    Mohammed and immediate successor Cleansed, Converted, or Killed, All the Jews [peacefully living] on the Arabian Peninsula.
    Mecca, and especially Medina/Yathrib, were in very good part Jewish. Aqaba less so.
    The 'evilness' of Jews is Part of the Koran.
    And despite also being 'people of the book', Christians too are foes.
    And of course so are Pagans: Hindus and Buddhists.

    [al-Ma'idah 5:51.8] O ye who believe! Take NOT the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not Wrongdoing folk.

    While the Jew's OT enemies are long since gone, Jews didn't/don't want a worldwide Caliphate, and don't prosletyze.
    The koran's enemies are still here.. US.

    Pretty Silly try at Moral Equivalence with the Islam poll.
    The only reason why the Jews Old Testament enemies are long since gone is the Old Testament details the wholesale genocide of them. For example, look at the fate of the Midianites:

    Numbers 31:7-18New International Version (NIV)

    7 They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.

    13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

    15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.


    Hell even Joseph Stalin would cringe at some of the atrocities committed in the name of God in the Old Testament. In the case detailed above, they killed everyone but little virgin girls whom the soldiers were to take and rape as spoils of war.

    They spare no one in the Old Testament, not even the unborn:

    Hosea 13:16New International Version (NIV)

    16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
    because they have rebelled against their God.
    They will fall by the sword;
    their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
    their pregnant women ripped open.”[a]
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