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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    All religion is evil.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    All religion is evil.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

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    That sucks.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity has had 500 more years to be neutered by secular society than Islam has. In another 500 years, Islam will have been forced to grow up a little more, like Christianity has, and will stop acting like a bunch of petulant children. Neither religion has, or will, gone quietly into peace. Both would go out and kill people in a second if given half a chance.
    Very poorly informed statement. Where exactly in scripture are Christians commanded to kill those who differ in their religious view? You can't answer can you?
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The only difference in terms of violence between Christianity and Islam is that most of the violence and genocide in Christianity occurs earlier in scripture while most of the violence in Islam occurs later in the Koran.
    What examples of violence in scripture are found in Christianity? I have no Idea what scripture you have in mind.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    What do you mean by Christian scripture? Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy does not constitute Christian scripture. Jesus despised the traditions of old. There are some violent references in the New Testament but they are a lot more subtle than the Old Testament references.
    LOL Jesus shouted old testament laws at the top of his lungs. Hated the old stuff my ass.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Some people may call this religion Judaism, Israelites, Yawehism or something else. I am referring to the ancient religion that is derived from the first five books of the Bible.

    When you read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy do you view a society of peaceful individuals? Are you able to visualize this ancient religion without mixing your ideas of modern Judaism?

    When I read the first five books of the Bible I see a religion very violent in nature and similar to Islam. It makes it very clear to me why these two tribes insist on killing each other all the time.

    Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?
    I think one has to make a distinction in the types of "Law" that God has given. In the establishment of ancient Israel and the cultural practice that characterized that ancient culture, Judaism certainly was not a peaceful movement. It was an instrument of God's wrath and a law for building cultural unity amongst tribes. However, the "religion" is a bit different than the building of the culture. The religion was a system of atonement for the transgressions of law. In this aspect it was indeed a religion of peace and mercy. From an affirmative perspective, look at the 10 commandments; is there any thing in them that is not peaceful? No. Once transgressed and from a negative perspective things could get bad, however the religion was established as a vehicle for mercy, while at the same time maintaining justice. So yes it is a religion of peace.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The bible describes Yahweh as a war god who enjoys shedding blood and hearing the screams of souls from hell. Definitely not a religion of peace.
    The bible describes God as Lord of Hosts, that is understood as a God over the battle, but the bible also refers to God as a God of Light, a God of Bread, A God of Justice, A God of Mercy, etc... I guess you pick the one that means the most to you personally, may I suggest you reconsider and take them all as a whole.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Judaism was a sect for those born from the tribe of Judah. Judaism excludes the remaining 11 tribes. I still don't know the proper terminology for this ancient religion even though many people call it Judaism. Is there a better term rather than Yahwehism?
    I don't believe that is accurate at all. Judiasm was practiced by all Jewish tribes.
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    Re: Is Yawehism a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, it isn't. It's a hateful, misogynistic, xenophobic, authoritarian bag of nonsense, just like its children, Islam and Christianity. It turns a blind eye on its own horrors, perpetuates adherence to myth instead of reality, and commits genocide and rape in an effort to maintain its power. Just like its children, Islam and Christianity.



    This is not true at all. Judaism is not derived from the tribe of Judah. All 12 tribes are equally part of Judaism.



    Judaism likely would as well. Though a history of persecution instead of a history of power might temper it a bit. But Judaism in power isn't treating Palestine terribly well, so maybe not.



    Are you suggesting that Protestants don't commit horrific genocide? The various efforts of the British empire would disagree. It wasn't lacking at all in religious motivation to kill heathens. Or the violence committed by largely Protestant Americans against Indian tribes? No, Martin Luther did very little to stem the violence of his religion. Enlightenment thinkers and secular ideas turned society against the validity of killing people for what they think or believe. Education, not theology, taught us that one culture or society is not inherently better than another, and that there should be no violence or discrimination against people just because they're different. No religious idea gave us that value. Abandoning religious ideas did.
    Your views are so skewed, what you have written here is a pathetic attempt to draw an equivalence between all religion. That is your first mistake. Many distinctions in philosophy between them exist, and we all know philosophy leads to culture. Like it or not there are superior cultural values that make life better for it's adherents.

    Your second mistake is to cherry pick historical references from scripture that you believe uphold your perverted view of religion, while ignoring the greater culture it has produced.
    Third ignoring the actual religious content and the positive references that deal with mercy and compassion.
    Your fourth mistake is cherry picking atrocities committed by fallible men who use religion to justify evil, while ignoring all of the charity and good will spread by followers of that same religion. Pathetic and weak attack, congratulations.
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