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Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 11.4%

  • No

    Votes: 73 55.3%

  • Yes and no

    Votes: 28 21.2%

  • Something else

    Votes: 16 12.1%
  • Total voters
    132
The answer is no. Submission to an ideology is not peace, and any objective review of the history of Islam from inception up to current times shows plenty of division, disagreement, splinter of faith, hatred, cruelty, loss of life, warfare, barbarianism punishments for lack of submission, outright sexism, pockets of pedophilia, strict social controls, etc.

You cannot even pretend Islam has anything to do with peace.

A core tenet of Islam is believing every single word of the Quran being the literal word of God. Go read it, take it as literal, and come back with some argument that the text of the Quran is all about peace.
 
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The teachings of Islam and the Koran are violent and/or advocate violence. However, there are peaceful and violent Muslims. Not all Muslims are violent.
 
Quran clearly demands non-stop killing of non-Muslims in more as 200 verses.As reward a true Muslim will receive a place in Paradise with wine and 72 virgins.It is nothing with Peace in Islam, only blood, beheading, stoning and murder.
 
Im betting the majority who voted No could not pass a 5th grade level test on Islam.
 
Brischera said:
Im betting the majority who voted No could not pass a 5th grade level test on Islam.
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Then put up a reasonable argument in response.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Then put up a reasonable argument in response.
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That is my argument. I am seriously stating the majority who claim Islam is violent could not pass a 5th grade level test on Islam.
 
Brischera said:
That is my argument. I am seriously stating the majority who claim Islam is violent could not pass a 5th grade level test on Islam.
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Which is meaningless. Put up an argument that Islam is a "religion of peace" to handle all of those that voted no, or admit your posts are basically trying to troll the thread.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Which is meaningless. Put up an argument that Islam is a "religion of peace" to handle all of those that voted no, or admit your posts are basically trying to troll the thread.
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No matter what I post someone will claim the numbers are false for X reasons and a test much more objective.

Want proof? Sure. There are more than 2.5 Muslims living in the US today. In the past year how many terrorist attacks have been committed by Muslims versus non Muslims in the US? Compare that to how many terrorist attacks have been carried out by non Muslims.

The question is relevant because if Islam itself is the problem then it transcends geopolitical spheres.

Look forward to the dancing.
 
Islam is a tribal murderous backwards cult. It's worse than Nazism. The world would be a better place if Islam was destroyed and banned from the earth. When it comes down to civilization vs savages, I always choose civilization. I am not swayed by the argument of ''peaceful Muslims''. The radical Muslim chops your head off. The peaceful Muslim ties your hands behind your back and holds your feet down.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
There only a few "religions of peace". Some sects of Buddhism, Jainism, a minority of Christianity - basically the peace Churches... these are about the only "religions of peace" out there. The problem with Islam is its your basic religion of law combined with a violent culture.
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Wrong, the tenets of Islam are militant and advocate violence against non believers. It's not even a little bit ambiguous.
 
Johnny Ace said:
Islam is a tribal murderous backwards cult. It's worse than Nazism. The world would be a better place if Islam was destroyed and banned from the earth. When it comes down to civilization vs savages, I always choose civilization. I am not swayed by the argument of ''peaceful Muslims''. The radical Muslim chops your head off. The peaceful Muslim ties your hands behind your back and holds your feet down.
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As our crimes regarding torture, secret prisons, and drone strikes increase so does the hateful rhetoric towards Islam. The reason is obvious. We cannot justify our actions so we simply increase the demonization of another group. Not the first time an empire has used this method.
 
countryboy said:
Wrong, the tenets of Islam are militant and advocate violence against non believers. It's not even a little bit ambiguous.
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Then explain the absence of that violence from the more than 2.5 million Muslims living in the US right now. In fact, the majority of violent terrorist attacks in the US come from Caucasian non Muslims.

But Im sure facts will not slow your roll.
 
countryboy said:
A cursory glance at the Koran easily refutes your claim. ;)
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You cant even understand the bible but now you're an expert on the Koran? Why? Because you know sites like religionofpeace.com

Im sorry. I cannot even begin to take you people even half seriously.
 
Brischera said:
As our crimes regarding torture, secret prisons, and drone strikes increase so does the hateful rhetoric towards Islam. The reason is obvious. We cannot justify our actions so we simply increase the demonization of another group. Not the first time an empire has used this method.
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Self defense by civilization from religious fanatic savages isn't a ''crime''. Islam is the crime. Islam promotes savagery, enslaves and murders.
 
Brischera said:
No matter what I post someone will claim the numbers are false for X reasons and a test much more objective.

Want proof? Sure. There are more than 2.5 Muslims living in the US today. In the past year how many terrorist attacks have been committed by Muslims versus non Muslims in the US? Compare that to how many terrorist attacks have been carried out by non Muslims.

The question is relevant because if Islam itself is the problem then it transcends geopolitical spheres.

Look forward to the dancing.
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I have no reason to dance around, you already have. The actions of other faiths do not negate the actions of Muslims, anywhere in the world for any reason. Narrowing the field down to Muslims only in the US and only in comparison to "terrorist attacks committed by... non-Muslims in the US" is moving the goal posts around.

Now answer the challenge... again... using the Quran, or really whatever you want assuming it is not moving the goal posts around, tell us how Islam is the "religion of peace."

We shall wait...
 
Brischera said:
Then explain the absence of that violence from the more than 2.5 million Muslims living in the US right now. In fact, the majority of violent terrorist attacks in the US come from Caucasian non Muslims.

But Im sure facts will not slow your roll.
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We are discussing the religion itself, not those who claim the mantle of it.

The majority of violent terrorist attacks in the US come from Caucasian non Muslims? Are you seriously making that statement on 9/12?
 
OrphanSlug said:
I have no reason to dance around, you already have. The actions of other faiths do not negate the actions of Muslims, anywhere in the world for any reason. Narrowing the field down to Muslims only in the US and only in comparison to "terrorist attacks committed by... non-Muslims in the US" is moving the goal posts around.

Now answer the challenge... again... using the Quran, or really whatever you want assuming it is not moving the goal posts around, tell us how Islam is the "religion of peace."

We shall wait...
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It is not moving the goal posts around because you are claiming Islam itself is the problem. It is.....you know what?

Nevermind.

People like you are not worth the energy.
 
radcen said:
Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

Yes?
No?
Yes and no?
Something else?

Please give some thoughts behind your conclusion.

Bonus question: In your opinion, why did Bush II go out of his way to refer to it as such after 9/11? Do you think he actually believed it? Do you think he was trying to keep people (us and them) calm?
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No it isn't, but to be fair the only religious group that I think we can say is and always has been a religion of peace, might be the Amish. Seems pretty much every other religion has quite a bit of violence against naysayers in it's history.
 
Brischera said:
You cant even understand the bible but now you're an expert on the Koran? Why? Because you know sites like religionofpeace.com

Im sorry. I cannot even begin to take you people even half seriously.
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I understand the Bible just fine. It is you and your ilk who make it their life's mission to spread disinformation about Christianity.

I've never heard of "religionofpeace.com", the Koran itself is widely available. Perhaps you should have a look at it. ;)
 
countryboy said:
I understand the Bible just fine. It is you and your ilk who make it their life's mission to spread disinformation about Christianity.

I've never heard of "religionofpeace.com", the Koran itself is widely available. Perhaps you should have a look at it. ;)
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Okay. Have a good day.
 
Summerwind said:
No it isn't, but to be fair the only religious group that I think we can say is and always has been a religion of peace, might be the Amish. Seems pretty much every other religion has quite a bit of violence against naysayers in it's history.
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Evidently you've never had your nostrils assaulted by a non deodorant wearing Amishman. ;) :D

Just kidding, many of them do stink, but they are usually very nice people. :)
 
Brischera said:
It is not moving the goal posts around because you are claiming Islam itself is the problem. It is.....you know what?

Nevermind.

People like you are not worth the energy.
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No, what I claimed is Islam is not a religion of peace. You bringing up problems with other systems of faith does not change very much, you trying to limit who to compare against does not change very much.

That said, I'll take your last comment as a concession as the point of this thread is to discuss why Islam is or is not a religion of peace.

Bottom line, you have offered very little to substantiate any challenge to those of us that contend Islam is not about peace. I've even provided for you a path to use the Quran to give some argument to a counter claim to mine. You have failed to do so.

Until you do put forth a reasonable argument on Islam being about peace, you are right... we are probably done here.
 
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