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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The New Testament contains neither. Frankly, even where the Old Testament is concerned, it's usually either God himself doing the killing, or the call for killing is limited in scope.

    Basically all the killing in the Quran is at the hands of men (and Muhammad in particular). Beyond even that, it's calls for violence and open-ended and essentially unlimited.

    The Quran quite literally calls for Muslims to conquer the whole world through strength of arms, and maim, kill, or enslave anyone who won't get with the program.
    Nailed it. Im amazed at the moral equivalency of so many here.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So essentially, your argument is that God is a dick? Seriously? And no, there are plenty of massacres in the Old Testament, directly commanded by God, carried out by man. Deuteronomy 17 says pretty much the same thing, anyone who follows any other religion gets put to death. How is that any different? Read your damn book.
    Try to answer this as best as you can. Who is currently beheading children and blowing up planes?

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrPepper View Post
    Yes, Christians run around starting theocracies so they can behead non-christians.... I've seen Hindu's and Jews doing it also. Islam is the religion of peace.... everytime I hear that it reminds me of the book by Kratman.

    A Desert Called Peace (Baen Science Fiction): Tom Kratman: 9781416555926: Amazon.com: Books
    Yeah, they do. It's called most of southern Africa. There is incredible violence by the Christian majorities against the non-Christian minorities. And honor killings, and gang rape, and systematic abuse of women and children. Just like in the Islamic Middle Eastern nations. Just like in Hindu India, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    Your lack of knowledge of the Koran, or Islam, is distressing, to say the least.
    No, it's more that my knowledge about other religions and seeing that the violence coming from the Islamic Middle East right now is not unique or even unusual in the world is distressing to you.
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    The only religion of peace is scientology, since nobody has died due to it (as far as I know).

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yeah, they do. It's called most of southern Africa. There is incredible violence by the Christian majorities against the non-Christian minorities. And honor killings, and gang rape, and systematic abuse of women and children. Just like in the Islamic Middle Eastern nations. Just like in Hindu India, too.

    No, it's more that my knowledge about other religions and seeing that the violence coming from the Islamic Middle East right now is not unique or even unusual in the world is distressing to you.
    Man I want some of that good stuff you are smoking. By the way, I found it very interesting in the way you worded your response, limiting it to take about "the population is Christian" instead of what is going on in the middle east (and even in Indonesia) where religion is being carried out in the NAME of said religion. And there in lies the difference. The last time Christians were killing on this scale was pre-reformation. Today, and that is all that matters in this discussion, today, Islam is being used to justify horrific acts of violence and depravity.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    I say something else, because the poll question was badly stated. What it should of said was, "Today, Is Islam a Religion of Peace"

    Because there is no question, there is no more violent religion TODAY than Islam.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Man I want some of that good stuff you are smoking. By the way, I found it very interesting in the way you worded your response, limiting it to take about "the population is Christian" instead of what is going on in the middle east (and even in Indonesia) where religion is being carried out in the NAME of said religion. And there in lies the difference. The last time Christians were killing on this scale was pre-reformation. Today, and that is all that matters in this discussion, today, Islam is being used to justify horrific acts of violence and depravity.
    Just as Christianity is being used to justify horrific acts of violence and depravity in these African countries. The interesting parts of the wording of my post are all in your head. Christianity and Hinduism are responsible for horrific violence the same way that Islam is.

    Also, your assertion that Christians are not killing in the name of Christianity on a significant scale in any recent history is complete and utter nonsense. The horrific death tolls from colonialism in Africa, China, and right here in the Americas were all carried out in the name of Christianity. The Holocaust was motivated by Christian hatred of Jews, Gypsies, blacks, and gays.

    But we are talking about today. Today Christianity is responsible for the horrific treatment of women and gays in southern Africa, and for massacres and torture. And for not checking the spread of HIV with contraceptives. Today Hinduism is responsible for the horrific treatment of women and gays in India, and for massacres and torture. Today Islam is responsible for the horrific treatment of women and gays in the Middle East and northern Africa, and for massacres and torture.

    All three have a lot of blood on their hands, and it is growing every day.
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Just as Christianity is being used to justify horrific acts of violence and depravity in these African countries. The interesting parts of the wording of my post are all in your head. Christianity and Hinduism are responsible for horrific violence the same way that Islam is.

    Also, your assertion that Christians are not killing in the name of Christianity on a significant scale in any recent history is complete and utter nonsense. The horrific death tolls from colonialism in Africa, China, and right here in the Americas were all carried out in the name of Christianity. The Holocaust was motivated by Christian hatred of Jews, Gypsies, blacks, and gays.

    But we are talking about today. Today Christianity is responsible for the horrific treatment of women and gays in southern Africa, and for massacres and torture. And for not checking the spread of HIV with contraceptives. Today Hinduism is responsible for the horrific treatment of women and gays in India, and for massacres and torture. Today Islam is responsible for the horrific treatment of women and gays in the Middle East and northern Africa, and for massacres and torture.

    All three have a lot of blood on their hands, and it is growing every day.
    Where is the Christian version of ISIS? Where is the Hindu version of Boko Haram? I'll give you the prejudice towards gays, but there is nothing on the scale of what is going on with Islam in terms of torture or massacres. Where you are clearly confused, is the fact that you equate a population that follows a certain religion that commits horrific acts, a la NAZI Germany, to one that does so in the name of said god. Hitler wasn't going around telling people, "God is telling me to kill all the Jews and Gypsies." Or are we forgetting the three million Christian poles that died during the holocaust?

    I have a serious question though for you. Why in your post did you feel the need to bring up events that happened 70-100 year ago, when you know we're just talking about today? I know in your second paragraph you make an attempt (pathetic as it were) to draw an analogy to today, but the fact you had to go back at all, shows just how weak that side of the argument is.

    Finally, most laughably, are you comparing "Christians..... not checking the spread of HIV with contraceptives" to ISIS beheading people in the name of ALLAH? Oh the lengths liberals will go to try and paint the picture that we're all the same and no one is better or worse than the other...

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Yes?
    No?
    Yes and no?
    Something else?

    Please give some thoughts behind your conclusion.

    Bonus question: In your opinion, why did Bush II go out of his way to refer to it as such after 9/11? Do you think he actually believed it? Do you think he was trying to keep people (us and them) calm?
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Yes and no.

    I've never read the actual religious texts, so I don't know about that.

    For some its a religion of peace. For many others it requires violence.

    I think it may be important to remember that for much of Christianity's history, there were extremist christians who acted like extremist islamists today. It's only more recently that it has evolved into a more peaceful religion.
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