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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    To be fair, Islamic support made a Martin Luther *and there were many just like him, before him* an actual reformationist. That and German princes tired of Catholic land domination.

    The real question is; why are people so willing to live their lives in fear? Freedom includes everyone, and with that freedom comes a terrible price of "insecurity". One, I personally, am willing to pay.
    Wouldn't you say that freedom is a fairly new idea in the course of human history?

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Can Islam produce a Martin Luther?
    I don't see why not. Christianity went through some pretty dark ages too and look at it today. Granted, Jesus was not a bloodthirsty warrior, but people were slaughtered in his name for centuries by those who claimed to worship him.
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    For what it's worth, here's my take. Any religion, including Islam, is what the individual believer feels it is. Some Muslims are peaceful, some are not - some are accepting of others beliefs, some are not. Replace the word Muslims in the previous sentence with any other religious word, like Christian, Jew, etc. and the same applies.

    However, Islamist extremists are the only ones beheading people on YouTube right now, that I'm aware of. But, Christian extremists are the only ones I know of that have blown up abortion clinics or killed doctors for performing abortions, but there may be some other religious group that has done that as well - I just don't know.
    This is the Fallacy of anecdote/Exception.
    An utterly Misleading 'equivalence' type statement.
    MORE People Die Almost EVERY DAY in the NAME of Islam than have died in 30 YEARS Total of abortion Clinic bombings.

    thereligionofpeace.com

    Monthly Jihad Report
    August, 2014

    Jihad Attacks: : : 222
    Countries:: : : : : 27
    Allah Akbars: : :: 24 (Suicide bombings)
    Dead Bodies: : : 4573

    Critically Injured: 2287

    Last 30 Days Only. NAME of Islam Only.
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks


    The Strawman 'Terrorism' is just the most famous Tip of a Violent/Intolerant Iceberg.
    Significant Minorities to Large Majorities favor penalties for 'Insulting Islam', or DEATH for 'Apostasy.'

    Christianity and islam are NOT remotely Comparable.
    A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.

    As always, paschendale #5, was quick to the 100% Wrong, 100% apologism.
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    It's an expansionist religion like Christianity, but Christ passively let himself be killed and was a spiritual leader, but not a political one. Mohammed launched wars of expansion and was both political and spiritual leader. Of course, to some extent, religion is whatever the believer wants it to be. Having said that, dogma does matter. Muslims are going to be less inclined to support separation of church and state then members of other religions because their dogma and religious history doesn't support it. The same is true about the violent expansionism of their religion.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Wouldn't you say that freedom is a fairly new idea in the course of human history?
    Frankly, I view freedom as a socio-economic affect. The less development a country was and is, the more likely they will practice, in some form (direct or indirect), slavery. Not to say this is the ultimate question, which it isn't, but that recent evolutions of our social identity should not be so readily sacrificed.

    Individual Freedom, recent or not, is a basic tenet of any modern society. To live in one (country) that does not provide this basic good, is to not live in a truly modern community.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    ... you'll discover that almost every single religion purports to be a religion of peace.
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    This is the Fallacy of anecdote/Exception.
    An utterly Misleading 'equivalence' type statement.
    MORE People Die Almost EVERY DAY in the NAME of Islam than have died in 30 YEARS Total of abortion Clinic bombings.

    thereligionofpeace.com

    Monthly Jihad Report
    August, 2014

    Jihad Attacks: : : 222
    Countries:: : : : : 27
    Allah Akbars: : :: 24 (Suicide bombings)
    Dead Bodies: : : 4573

    Critically Injured: 2287

    Last 30 Days Only. NAME of Islam Only.
    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time


    The Strawman 'Terrorism' is just the most famous Tip of a Violent/Intolerant Iceberg.
    Significant Minorities to Large Majorities favor penalties for 'Insulting Islam', or DEATH for 'Apostasy.'

    Christianity and islam are NOT remotely Comparable.
    A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.

    As always, paschendale #5, was quick to the 100% Wrong, 100% apologism.

    Some would call this objective reality bigotry. They are trying to deflect from reality.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... you'll discover that almost every single religion purports to be a religion of peace.
    And yet some actually are more peaceful than others. And then theres the political ideologies like communism...

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    There are plenty of people who are peaceful, who are also Muslim. As for the religion, the philosophy itself is not what I'd call peaceful at all, if taken literally.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    In my view, the religion itself isn't any more violent or any more peaceful than any other religion.

    It's what the people make of it, i.e. how they distort it to their own ends, and there seems to be a great many that are distorting Islam to violence, as there are a great many people, lacking independent thought and critical thinking, who seems to be so easily seduced to that dark side.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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