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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Mittner View Post
    You mean like many Christian communities once did just a few hundred years ago? Blame the interpretation and practice of a religion; not the religious ideas, themselves.

    Oh, and the vast majority of modern Muslims aren't going to care if you leave the religion. Any idea can have fanatical supporters. Religions especially. And especially in highly religious cultures, and even more so if there's poverty or other environmental traits that breed desperation.
    You seem to think pointing a finger and saying "They did it too!" is an excuse. Its not.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    But when the bible and the Korean implicitly state that all non believes must be killed, enslaved or sent to a burning pit in hell, I don't see a way of interpreting your way around the violent message that conveys.
    The Bible does not say that. The Quran does.

    There is a difference.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The Bible does not say that. The Quran does.

    There is a difference.
    Where do you think the Quran gets it from?

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The Bible does not say that. The Quran does.

    There is a difference.
    Sure it does. Do I really need to quote it for you. I was a fairly hard core Christian for 18 years. Graduated from religious education (Sunday School). Read the bible cover to cover several times. I can point to passages that say exactly that, or can be taken that way.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Where do you think the Quran gets it from?
    The certifiable psychopath who founded the religion, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Sure it does. Do I really need to quote it for you. I was a fairly hard core Christian for 18 years. Graduated from religious education (Sunday School). Read the bible cover to cover several times. I can point to passages that say exactly that, or can be taken that way.
    Quote me where, precisely, it is said in either the Old or New Testament that all Christians and Jews have the universal right and moral prerogative to kill, enslave, or forcibly convert all people of other religions.

    I'll be waiting.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Islam is the religion of peace in the sense that when all the world will be islamized and under sharia law and under the same sect, and all of humanity bends the knee and prays to the same god 5 times a day, in a world where all apostates will be killed and all women will wear tents as to not anger the muslim men, then, it will be peace.

    But that's a bad peace.
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    A bad peace is even worse than war.
    ~Tacitus.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Violence is certainly not limited to extremists, but it takes religion or some other type of influence to motivate an extremist to do things that a normal individual would not do. It also takes an ideology that can be interpreted for that purpose. I think most religions fall in to the category of ideologies that can be interpreted as an excuse to carry out violent acts. You would have to be completely dishonest to say that the writings of at least the major religions of today can not be interpreted in that way.
    And what scriptures were the LA rioters using?

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    No, the religion has nothing to do with it.

    The lack of sanity has everything to do with it.

    Nobody who is not insane/severely emotionally disturbed is going to murder innocent people just because some book tells them to.

    Sane/emotionally balanced people do not murder innocent people.
    The lack of sanity has a lot to do with people believing ridiculous things. It's absurd that you simply redefine sanity to mean what you want it to mean and declare, entirely without evidence or reason, that anyone who falls outside of your entirely subjective criteria must have something wrong with them.

    Yeah, that makes sense.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The certifiable psychopath who founded the religion, perhaps?
    I think Mohammed was a genius- Islam as a concept is logically sound since there is only one god and he shrewdly made himself the last prophet of it. On the other hand, the ones who created christianity by committee ended up making that religion full of holes in its logic (like there is supposedly only one god but all of a sudden that god has a son who also happens to be the same god, huh? etc.) thus making it inevitable that another religion that would finally fix that flawed logic (namely Islam) would be created and begin gaining converts rapidly... it was the very weakness of christianity (since the early christians already started fighting with each other in regards to differing dogmas due to the lack of logic of the core tenents as explain above) that gave rise to Islam.

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    Re: Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I think Mohammed was a genius- Islam as a concept is logically sound since there is only one god and he shrewdly made himself the last prophet of it. On the other hand, the ones who created christianity by committee ended up making that religion full of holes in its logic (like there is supposedly only one god but all of a sudden that god has a son who also happens to be the same god, huh? etc.) thus making it inevitable that another religion that would finally fix that flawed logic (namely Islam) would be created and begin gaining converts rapidly... it was the very weakness of christianity (since the early christians already started fighting with each other in regards to differing dogmas due to the lack of logic of the core tenents as explain above) that gave rise to Islam.
    He was a "genius" is roughly the same sense that someone like Hitler or L. Ron Hubbard were. I'll certainly grant you that much.

    He knew how to effectively craft and market an idea that was appealing to the masses of his era, while simultaneously empowering and enriching himself beyond all reason.

    I would disagree that Christianity is fundamentally untenable, however. The simple fact of the matter is that we know only so much about God as God himself has chosen to reveal.

    God, if he exists at all, reveals such knowledge in his own good time.

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