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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    This is about Putin's attempt to reestablish the Soviet Empire.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    NATO expansion eastward.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    NATO expansion eastward.
    NATO expansion is always by invitation.
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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    NATO expansion is always by invitation.
    They must love NATO in Libya, eh? Some very expansive bombing, don't ya' know?

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    They must love NATO in Libya, eh? Some very expansive bombing, don't ya' know?
    That was a NATO operation, at the invitation of Libyan insurgents, not NATO expansion.
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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That was a NATO operation, at the invitation of Libyan insurgents, not NATO expansion.
    I wonder if some disgruntled Americans could get a NATO regime change to happen in the US?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    NATO expansion is always by invitation.
    I seem to recall Yanukovych going with Russia.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I wonder if some disgruntled Americans could get a NATO regime change to happen in the US?
    Try your luck. The Libyan insurrection was a legitimate popular uprising, regardless of what has happened subsequently.
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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I seem to recall Yanukovych going with Russia.
    Unfortunately for him his people wanted another direction.
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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Try your luck. The Libyan insurrection was a legitimate popular uprising, regardless of what has happened subsequently.
    Bull crap. Since when do the few make the decision for the many, US/NATO abuse of the UN resolution for the use of force has Libya in tethers, sorry, like Ukraine, just another US foreign policy failure.

    Jack Matlock, U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987 to 1991, says that the U.S. and NATO are to blame for the Ukraine crisis:

    The fact is they are going to intervene until they are certain that there is no prospect of Ukraine becoming a member of NATO. And all of the threats by NATO and so on to sort of increase defenses elsewhere is simply provocative to the Russians. Now, I’m not saying that’s right, but I am saying that’s the way Russia is going to react. And frankly, this is all predictable. And those of us who helped negotiate the end of the Cold War almost unanimously said in the 1990s, “Do not expand NATO eastward. Find a different way to protect eastern Europe, a way that includes Russia. Otherwise, eventually there’s going to be a confrontation, because there is a red line, as far as any Russian government is concerned, when it comes to Ukraine and Georgia and other former republics of the Soviet Union.”
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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