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Thread: What is the War in Ukraine about?

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    You can't enforce UNGA resolutions period, they are not international law, they're strongly worded letters, do you even know the difference between a UNSC Resolution and a UNGA Resolution?
    Neither are enforceable by the UN. The UN hasn't an enforcement arm. Do you understand that?
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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    This dealt with foreign media and was discontinued in 1976.




    I notice you provide no link for your second source, shocking. Ed Snowden is a proven liar. Provide first hand accounts of those actually in the employ of any service in the US government to troll internet forums and post propaganda the way my sources have done. You can't because they don't exist, however, the evidence regarding the authoritarian Russian regime paying propagandists to troll internet forums by the post has been presented and you have nothing as a rebuttal save for pointing to anti-Soviet propaganda efforts during the cold war ended in the mid-70s and nonsense from a questionable source with absolutely no substantiating evidence to back the claims therein.
    And you are proof of paid trolls, how often have you changed your user name, and avatar to advance propaganda?


    New Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations'
    from the and-not-just-terrorists dept
    A few weeks ago, Glenn Greenwald, while working with NBC News, revealed some details of a GCHQ presentation concerning how the surveillance organization had a "dirty tricks" group known as JTRIG -- the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group. Now, over at The Intercept, he's revealed the entire presentation and highlighted more details about how JTRIG would seek to infiltrate different groups online and destroy people's reputations -- going way, way, way beyond just targeting terrorist groups and threats to national security.

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...utations.shtml

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...g-Infiltration
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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Neither are enforceable by the UN. The UN hasn't an enforcement arm. Do you understand that?
    UNSC Resolutions have the force of international law, UNGA resolutions do not have the force of international law, do you understand THAT?

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And you are proof of paid trolls, how often have you changed your user name, and avatar to advance propaganda?


    New Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations'
    from the and-not-just-terrorists dept
    A few weeks ago, Glenn Greenwald, while working with NBC News, revealed some details of a GCHQ presentation concerning how the surveillance organization had a "dirty tricks" group known as JTRIG -- the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group. Now, over at The Intercept, he's revealed the entire presentation and highlighted more details about how JTRIG would seek to infiltrate different groups online and destroy people's reputations -- going way, way, way beyond just targeting terrorist groups and threats to national security.

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...utations.shtml

    Greenwald Blows The Whistle On Covert Blog Infiltration
    Post the actual documents, once again Snowden is a proven liar. His assertions regarding Operation PRISM for example have been shown to be false. The Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG) and Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) aren't even freaking American they're British.

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    lmfao those are for AQ websites; such as, "Inspire", not comments sections on the Guardian and regular debate forums to spread propaganda like the Russian program so spare us the false analogies.

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Post the actual documents, once again Snowden is a proven liar. His assertions regarding Operation PRISM for example have been shown to be false. The Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG) and Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) aren't even freaking American they're British.
    Don't take any laxatives. There won't be anything left of you.

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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Post the actual documents, once again Snowden is a proven liar. His assertions regarding Operation PRISM for example have been shown to be false. The Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG) and Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) aren't even freaking American they're British.


    With all DUE respect, under the law, which you seem to claim to know a lot about, if someone accuses someone of being a "liar" tehy need to document that with proof, it's called "onus" of the accuser.

    No where have I ever seen any credible evidence that Snowden "lied" as he never said anything, he merely released documents which should have been public information in the first place.

    So, if you have anything credible please present it after reading rule #10. If not, please be so kind as to close the pie hole and allow this debate to get back to where it was intended.


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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    lmfao those are for AQ websites; such as, "Inspire", not comments sections on the Guardian and regular debate forums to spread propaganda like the Russian program so spare us the false analogies.

    Once again, with disregard to your antagonistic tone, spewing on and on proves nothing. If you have any such evidence that these accusations you make are true, please present them under rule #10. Simply railing at unmentioned and unreferenced periodicals provides nothing positive except for those who need attention all the time.
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    Re: What is the War in Ukraine about?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    lmfao those are for AQ websites; such as, "Inspire", not comments sections on the Guardian and regular debate forums to spread propaganda like the Russian program so spare us the false analogies.
    Taking Fearandloathing's wise suggestion, more to the point of the US's involvement in Ukraine.

    Kissinger's take on the Ukraine crisis.
    http://nuclearrisk.wordpress.com/201...ainian-crisis/

    Oil, gas and nuclear power companies make up the top group lobbying on Ukraine, records show. Along with Exxon Mobil, Chevron Corp., Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, Westinghouse Electric Co., and the Nuclear Energy Institute also filed first-quarter lobbying reports that cover Ukraine.

    Ukraine Crisis Drives a Quiet Lobbying Boom in U.S. - Businessweek
    Last edited by Montecresto; 09-18-14 at 07:20 PM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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