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Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 5 13.9%
  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 19 52.8%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Im an American neither right nor left, yes.

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Im an American neither right nor left, no.

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Total voters
    36

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A recent leaked Border Patrol document Darby CBP Leak Numbers Globe shows that tens of thousands of foreigners are caught sneaking into the US each year. For every one caught, certainly more get through-and NOT just from latin America. At the same time, Obama encourages a massive influx of illegals with very little or no documentation. On top of this we have unsavory characters from Mexico's drug cartels, and human smugglers coming through because they know they CAN.
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And yet our border remains porous-with some claiming a secure border is racist, intolerant, a waste of time :roll:, etc. Drugs, and people can get through-and terrorists will exploit that as much as human smugglers and drug traffickers, I believe. We know terrorists HAVE gotten through-and its one reason why Homeland Security is on edge right now, expecting more attacks.

Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?
 
Crossing over from Mexico is likely very low on the list of methods that Islamic terrorists would use to enter this country. Of course, the majority of terrorist actions in this country are committed by American citizens, making the idea of linking immigration from Mexico and South America to terrorism even more pointless. As in the graphic, drugs certainly come in that way, but we like drugs in this country. Terrorists don't come in that way. Amusingly, they're often not too fond of the drugs.
 
If a terrorist wants to get in here it's not going to matter whether or not we have a fence up.
 
No country can be safe from terrorism today.
 
So even though anyone can walk across (as seen in the OP's link) you KNOW somehow that terrorists dont?

How can you possibly know that?

Because every terrorist (modern Islamic terrorists, which are the ones we're talking about) whose travel into this country has been released to the public hasn't come that way. Most illegal immigrants don't come that way either. They both mainly get here on commercial airlines. They don't hijack them. They just buy tickets.
 
The answer, regardless, is no. It's no across the board no matter what modern problem it is associated with.

The problem posited here is incursion, and I think that a border that is actually defended like any other nation is a good start. Its very hard to stomach all of the "protections" the NSA and TSA have bestowed upon us. And yet its even worse when old women can WALK HERE. :lol:
 
Because every terrorist (modern Islamic terrorists, which are the ones we're talking about) whose travel into this country has been released to the public hasn't come that way. Most illegal immigrants don't come that way either. They both mainly get here on commercial airlines. They don't hijack them. They just buy tickets.

Nobody has ever broken into my home or stolen my car. Therefore I should not lock the doors.
 
The problem posited here is incursion, and I think that a border that is actually defended like any other nation is a good start. Its very hard to stomach all of the "protections" the NSA and TSA have bestowed upon us. And yet its even worse when old women can WALK HERE. :lol:

Yeah, and the Northern Border isn't solid either, nor is our power grid or infrastructure, among other things.
 
Nobody has ever broken into my home or stolen my car. Therefore I should not lock the doors.

No, you shouldn't lock your doors if nobody has ever broken into any home or stolen any car. You guard against things that actually happen. Terrorists crossing into this country from Mexico isn't something that actually happens.
 
No, you shouldn't lock your doors if nobody has ever broken into any home or stolen any car. You guard against things that actually happen. Terrorists crossing into this country from Mexico isn't something that actually happens.

How are you so sure that does not "actually happen"?
 
So do we ignore the problem? Why cut your hair? Its just going to grow back.

We, you and I, we couldn't do anything about it even if we wanted to. It's out of our hands and we have to live with the consequences of the decisions our elected representatives make, or don't make.
 
Somehow he knows. Im sure our govt would tell us right away if it did happen. :doh

It falls under National Security so the default choice is to Don't Say Anything. Not saying it wouldn't or couldn't get leaked, but word on Infiltration is few and far in-between which is evidenced by none of the top U.S. Media Companies running an Infiltration story even after I sent several e-mails with the C-SPAN video itself & the transcript of what the DNI had said.

If something happens, I already know who I'm pointing my finger at.
 
MS-13 aka Mara Salvatruchas are all illegal aliens who illegally crossed our southern border except for those MS-13 gang members who Obama has allowed to cross our border just in the past few month by giving them a court date. I doubt any will show up, MS-13 says "Obama is the man."

Where ever MS-13 is found in America's neighborhoods, people live in terror.

Mara Salvatruchas (MS-13) | Terrorist Groups | TRAC

>"WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of the Treasury today designated the Latin American gang Mara Salvatrucha, known as MS-13, pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13581, which targets significant transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) and their supporters. MS-13 is being targeted for its involvement in serious transnational criminal activities, including drug trafficking, kidnapping, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder, assassinations, racketeering, blackmail, extortion, and immigration offenses..."<
Treasury Sanctions Latin American Criminal Organization

FBI — MS-13 Threat Assessment

From Prison to Gangs to the World's Most Notorious Terrorist Group
>" The MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) gang's33 connection to al Qaeda was facilitated after 9/11 when the terrorist group realized the gang could help smuggle operatives and weapons into the U.S. over the Mexican border. According to Steven McCraw, the former assistant director of the FBI's Office of Intelligence and current director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, a matricula consular 34 provides an opportunity for terrorists to move freely within the U.S. without triggering name-based watch lists..."<
From Prison to Gangs to the World's Most Notorious Terrorist Group | Organized Retail Crime Goes Global | FT Press





MS-13 gang labeled transnational criminal group
MS-13 gang labeled transnational criminal group, a first for US street gang - CSMonitor.com
 
We, you and I, we couldn't do anything about it even if we wanted to. It's out of our hands and we have to live with the consequences of the decisions our elected representatives make, or don't make.

By We, I meant Americans in general. Living as a subject of our representatives isn't good enough for me. They represent us.

THEY need to respond to our demands, or they go away.
 
It falls under National Security so the default choice is to Don't Say Anything. Not saying it wouldn't or couldn't get leaked, but word on Infiltration is few and far in-between which is evidenced by none of the top U.S. Media Companies running an Infiltration story even after I sent several e-mails with the C-SPAN video itself & the transcript of what the DNI had said.

If something happens, I already know who I'm pointing my finger at.

I'd like to hear about the incident you are referring to. Where can I read up on it?
 
Somehow he knows. Im sure our govt would tell us right away if it did happen. :doh

Oh yeah, we could really depend on the "most transparent" administration ever. Obama would have to hear it the same time as most Americans hear of it.
 
MS-13 aka Mara Salvatruchas are all illegal aliens who illegally crossed our southern border except for those MS-13 gang members who Obama has allowed to cross our border just in the past few month by giving them a court date. I doubt any will show up, MS-13 says "Obama is the man."

Where ever MS-13 is found in America's neighborhoods, people live in terror.

Mara Salvatruchas (MS-13) | Terrorist Groups | TRAC

>"WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of the Treasury today designated the Latin American gang Mara Salvatrucha, known as MS-13, pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13581, which targets significant transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) and their supporters. MS-13 is being targeted for its involvement in serious transnational criminal activities, including drug trafficking, kidnapping, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder, assassinations, racketeering, blackmail, extortion, and immigration offenses..."<
Treasury Sanctions Latin American Criminal Organization

FBI — MS-13 Threat Assessment

From Prison to Gangs to the World's Most Notorious Terrorist Group
>" The MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) gang's33 connection to al Qaeda was facilitated after 9/11 when the terrorist group realized the gang could help smuggle operatives and weapons into the U.S. over the Mexican border. According to Steven McCraw, the former assistant director of the FBI's Office of Intelligence and current director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, a matricula consular 34 provides an opportunity for terrorists to move freely within the U.S. without triggering name-based watch lists..."<
From Prison to Gangs to the World's Most Notorious Terrorist Group | Organized Retail Crime Goes Global | FT Press





MS-13 gang labeled transnational criminal group
MS-13 gang labeled transnational criminal group, a first for US street gang - CSMonitor.com

How can we keep this nation safe if any thug can not only sneak over here-but be welcomed by democrats?

Tangentially, I saw the movie Get the Gringo this week, its outstanding.
 
By We, I meant Americans in general. Living as a subject of our representatives isn't good enough for me. They represent us.

THEY need to respond to our demands, or they go away.

That's the old model. We're under a new model now - we don't matter. What we say or think doesn't matter when someone with more zeroes in his bank account can talk to the Leadership in Congress or the Executive Branch including the POTUS. Representative Democracy is but a thin concealer of what truly lies beneath: oligarchy, plutocracy & cronyism.
 
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