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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post

    A recent leaked Border Patrol document Darby CBP Leak Numbers Globe shows that tens of thousands of foreigners are caught sneaking into the US each year. For every one caught, certainly more get through-and NOT just from latin America. At the same time, Obama encourages a massive influx of illegals with very little or no documentation. On top of this we have unsavory characters from Mexico's drug cartels, and human smugglers coming through because they know they CAN.


    And yet our border remains porous-with some claiming a secure border is racist, intolerant, a waste of time , etc. Drugs, and people can get through-and terrorists will exploit that as much as human smugglers and drug traffickers, I believe. We know terrorists HAVE gotten through-and its one reason why Homeland Security is on edge right now, expecting more attacks.

    Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?


    This is something that we need to think real hard about when the next election rolls around. Especially if we have a terrorist attack launched by terrorists who snuck across the border.

    Some of our congress-critters have had plenty of time to spend trying to sabotage the ACA, but they couldn't find time to secure our borders.

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    If a terrorist wants to get in here it's not going to matter whether or not we have a fence up.
    Don't worry, we'll never going to be able to test that theory.
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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And why do you disagree? Because you don't like our immigration policies? Or do you actually have some evidence that this problem exists? If you do, please share it. Otherwise, this is an unfounded fear and no cause to try to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
    Im the son of an immigrant-neither my father nor me like illegal immigration. Its a known portal of entry, and you seem content reacting afterwords. Just like ISIS was the JV team, etc.

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Terrorism is a technique, which is utilized by citizens and legal residents far more frequently than by foreigners.

    Boston Marathon bombing, Oklahoma City bombing, the Weathermen, the SLA, Earth First!, Joseph Stack flying a plane into an IRS building, 2012 Sikh Temple shooting, 2009 Fort Hood shooting, 2002 Beltway Sniper attacks, on and on and on....

    Not to mention cyber attacks, which can be initiated by pretty much anyone anywhere in the world with an Internet connection.

    Most importantly of all, the odds of anyone in the US being killed by terrorism is extremely small. 9/11, as horrific as it was, was responsible for 0.08% of all deaths in the US in 2001. As one article put it, You're More Likely to Die from Brain-Eating Parasites, Alcoholism, Obesity, Medical Errors, Risky Sexual Behavior or Just About Anything OTHER THAN Terrorism.


    Ultimately, terrorism is a method whose true effectiveness is not reflected in its death counts, but in the fear it sows, and the over-reactions it provokes. We also pay more attention to big, splashy, out-of-our-control events like a bombing than to, say, smoking tobacco -- which now kills almost half a million people a year.

    So, yes. We can certainly still be safe, even if we don't put the US inside a giant bubble to seal out The Others. That is, if we stop smoking cigarettes.
    This is precious. You think that because other means to utilize terrorism exist, that we should keep a border that elderly women can walk across.
    Its clear you have forgotten 9/11 and the expensive lessons learned.

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    so evil doesnt exist.....and if we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone...right?

    i wonder how the jews would respond to that line of thought?
    Take a look at the poll results, most of us understand that you can build a fort and play nice, but if you leave your back door unlocked whats the point?

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    For the second time. Minding your own business is not appeasement. The Swiss mind their own business, do you think they are appeasers?
    The swiss, like most of western europe are able to mind their business because they are protected to an extent by the US. I could never justify terror.

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's a conclusion based on the available information, as opposed to one based on just making stuff up. Which kind of conclusion do you think is better?
    Its your opinion, based on what you'd like to be the case. There is no evidence to back your claim. Perhaps you should put out public service announcements to leave doors unlocked.

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post

    A recent leaked Border Patrol document Darby CBP Leak Numbers Globe shows that tens of thousands of foreigners are caught sneaking into the US each year. For every one caught, certainly more get through-and NOT just from latin America. At the same time, Obama encourages a massive influx of illegals with very little or no documentation. On top of this we have unsavory characters from Mexico's drug cartels, and human smugglers coming through because they know they CAN.


    And yet our border remains porous-with some claiming a secure border is racist, intolerant, a waste of time , etc. Drugs, and people can get through-and terrorists will exploit that as much as human smugglers and drug traffickers, I believe. We know terrorists HAVE gotten through-and its one reason why Homeland Security is on edge right now, expecting more attacks.

    Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?
    The 911 highjackers, the 1996 world trade center bombers, the '96 Olympic bomber, nor the Boston bombers came across the Mexican border: what does that tell you?

    This BS about "terrorists crossing at the Mexican border" (because they look Mexican) is just a right-wing meme designed to scare people into building a complete wall at the border and protecting the employment of illegals.
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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I'll agree with you but will say the drug cartel and criminal violence are a terrorist threat. When I saw the breaking news on cnn about the latest beheading, we looked up beheading and the first three videos were drug cartel beheadings. They are famous for that, but for some reason don't get much American press.
    They do around here in southern california. Ive worked 911 in areas where the cartels are-and seen their executions twice-a hanging and a disembowelment.

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    Re: Can the US be safe from terrorist incursion with our current open border?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    You're catching on.
    Do you have any fences or locks?

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