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Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

Who is responsible?


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From the article it appears the photos were stolen. In that case 100% responsibility for the crime on the thief. Blaming the women is the equivalent of blaming a homeowner for theft because he left his door open. An open door is not an invitation to come in steal.

Texas Transportation Code
Section 545.404 that makes leaving a vehicle unattended without stopping the
engine or removing the key from the ignition illegal.

I bet leaving your door open also has consequences.
 
Well, no. We(collective we, referring to us as a country, and in this case law enforcement) could do a much better job going after and punishing hackers. Unfortunately, it would cost alot of money. I think it would be money well spent, but spending on something that will have an invisible effect is something that is just not politically going to happen right now.

Having worked in the past with converted hackers - they see better security and higher punishment as a challenge to get away with it. Even if we could affect hackers in the US, we could do little to international hackers - China and Russia being some of the best right now. I see a war on hackers similarly to the war on drugs - it would just make it that much more enticing.
 
The best way to be close to hack proof is to encrypt your whole OS.

Thats not a deterrent if you store stuff on cloud storage. The NSA has probably got nude photos of everybody who took nudes of themselves at one time or another. ;)
 
It sounds like the person you where talking to is prone to overblown hyperbole.

Yes, but that's kind of the point. There's a lot of that hyperbole going around, at least from what I've said, in the "name" of privacy. Take this article, which is largely where the talking points are being born from as it's been linked from multiple different activist sites and blogs:

If you deliberately seek out any of these images, you are directly participating in the violation not just of numerous women's privacy but also of their bodies.

The people sharing these images are perpetuating an ongoing assault. The people gleefully looking at them are witnessing and enjoying an ongoing assault

To have those moments stolen and broadcast to the world is an egregious act of psychic violence, which constitutes a form of assault.

(SOURCE)

If having private things not meant for the public consumption wrongfully leaked to the public to be experienced over and over again is an "assault" or "psychic violence" then such a thing isn't like a "stubbed toe". You're suggest that it's on par with a CRIME, and not just the HACKING but the releasing and then the subsequent viewing by ANYONE ELSE. And regardless of what anyone may've thought about Sterling, what he did was not a CRIME. If one TRULY believes that such an invasion of privacy is so CRIMINAL then "but there were other issues with sterling" just doens't pass muster. And this all goes back to my basic statement, that this concern for "privacy" by some is a farce...it's bull****...it's something that sounds good to plop on top of the true agenda which is hammering people over the head repeatedly about "rape culture" or various feminist ideals.
 
Well, no. We(collective we, referring to us as a country, and in this case law enforcement) could do a much better job going after and punishing hackers. Unfortunately, it would cost alot of money. I think it would be money well spent, but spending on something that will have an invisible effect is something that is just not politically going to happen right now.

And frankly, even though this is incredibly idealistic to expect much result, the technology community needs to stop excusing and glorifying hackers.
 
Having worked in the past with converted hackers - they see better security and higher punishment as a challenge to get away with it. Even if we could affect hackers in the US, we could do little to international hackers - China and Russia being some of the best right now. I see a war on hackers similarly to the war on drugs - it would just make it that much more enticing.

Talk about a losing battle. I really don't want to be in the middle of that one.
 
And frankly, even though this is incredibly idealistic to expect much result, the technology community needs to stop excusing and glorifying hackers.

Except those "hackers" built the tech community. They're the reason you have all that electronic gear to play with. And some of them are why you can now use that tech in something approaching a secure manner.

These aren't script kiddies we're talking about here.
 
Or cut the Ethernet cord and disable wifi.

Or turn off the share photos option...lol


Thats not a deterrent if you store stuff on cloud storage. The NSA has probably got nude photos of everybody who took nudes of themselves at one time or another. ;)

Yeah, I meant a PC or emails.
Celebrities are not interesting enough to worry about what the NSA has on them.
 
Except those "hackers" built the tech community. They're the reason you have all that electronic gear to play with. And some of them are why you can now use that tech in something approaching a secure manner.

These aren't script kiddies we're talking about here.

To an incredibly limited extent. Hackers self-perpetuate the need for security.
 
Texas Transportation Code
Section 545.404 that makes leaving a vehicle unattended without stopping the
engine or removing the key from the ignition illegal.

I bet leaving your door open also has consequences.

I'll be damned. It's illegal in New York too. Never knew that. I have to wonder though whether that's more about stupid kids joy riding or concerns that it'll take off on it's own than about theft.
 
This is all rather amusing. We ignore hacking going on daily that affects peoples finances and lives. Some people even CELEBRATE certain groups of hackers...especially if they can 'stick it to da man!'. But we are supposed to be outraged because a hacker found their way into nude photos and videos of 'starlets'?

Does anyone NOT know by now that EVERYTHING you put on your phone or computer (if said device is connected in any way to the network) is visible and in fact fair game?
Just because this is the topic-du-jour doesn't mean we're ignoring other more serious examples.


I see where you're trying to go, you just didn't like the Weiner example. There are plenty more. So okay, I'll give up that example. Now, that still doesn't prove your point.

Btw, on that last, no. The photographer keeps the rights to their photo, even if they share it with other individuals. They still retain the rights where it comes to public display of the photograph.
Somebody with a name and reputation like "Weiner" is a perfect metaphor for this topic. :2razz:


Spot on. But then again celebrities arent known for their brains. Emails are extremely unsecured and can be intercepted without encryption just as cloud files.
Celebrities are just like non-celebrities when it comes to stuff like this. The only difference is that nobody cares about non-celebrities enough to want to look at the photos. There's plenty of non-celebrity nude photos available if you want them.
 
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Actually that's not true. That's part of the appeal of the leak. Many of the big names...like Upton and Lawrence...have never done nude shots. Hell, there was a whole skit as the oscars about actresses whose Boobs we've seen on Movies and mentioning how Jennifer Lawerence wasn't on that list yet.

Arieanna Grande and Mikahala Maroney (I butchered that spelling of both) haven't done nude things. Olivia Munn has done topless, but I believe this leak supposedly included a nude bottom of her as well.

Many of those in the leak have never been nude on film in any public fashion.

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Add her shoot for Esquire and there's not a lot left for the imagination.

BTW: She's gorgeous.
 
Frankly, I'm more interested in not getting hacked than I am in punishing someone after the fact. My whole goal is to not set myself up for a problem in the first part so, to that end, I choose to take personal responsibility for my decisions FIRST and then worry about who to blame farther down the road. In my experience whatever recompense you get from someone who has wronged you rarely makes up for the affront anyway.

You're arguing with the wrong person. I said from the very beginning that what the hackers did was a crime. But again, if you leave your car unlocked with the keys in it in a area known by all to be rife with car thieves, your insurance is likely to refuse your claim when it is stolen. Why? Because you are partially responsible and a total dumb****.

You cannot discourage hacking any more than has already been done. It's not about blame - it's about involuntary ignorance. Most people do not know how much information is available on them and how vulnerable it is. We have out of kilter expectations that Home Depot, or Apple, or any other company is protecting their financial or personal information and most do an adequate job. But as has already been said - if a hacker wants to get information they will. It's up to us, the users, to inform ourselves, to regulate our expectations, and to not to trust any information we would not want shown to everyone we know, on anything which has an internet connection.

You are continuing to put focus on the victim's responsibility, not the perpetrator's.

Until you can come to terms with this, you and I are just going to go round in circles.
 
What a let down this thread doesn't have the pics it just talks about them
I give it a 1/2 star
 
You are continuing to put focus on the victim's responsibility, not the perpetrator's.
It's the victims actions which allowed the hacking in the first place. Certainly the victims are not at fault - as I've said which apparently you either did not understand or did not read. They simply did not understand that their information is not secure online. A lesson the victims now have learned the hard way.

Until you can come to terms with this, you and I are just going to go round in circles.
Until you acknowledge the victims part in the hacking, I'm afraid you are correct. Certainly the hackers should be sought out and found if possible - but that's not very likely.
 
You are continuing to put focus on the victim's responsibility, not the perpetrator's.

Until you can come to terms with this, you and I are just going to go round in circles.

What?

While nobody has a responsibility not to be a victim they do (or at least should) have enough common sense to take steps to reduce the likelihood of becoming a victim. It falls into the same category as not waving around wads of cash in public and looking both ways before crossing the street even if you're at a crosswalk.
 
my kids are all in their late 20's

i had the privacy and internet talk with them many, many years ago

way before sexting became a thing....

should photos you take be safe from intrusion....sure

are they? no.....

so anyone taking risque photo's of themselves, or with their partners, will always have a chance of those ending up as public

it is one of the things you have to take into consideration.....

to do so blindly nowadays, is just throwing any caution to the wind
 
This is no wakeup call, just a reminder of what EVERYONE already knows, especially celebrities. They are reminded of it every time they take a walk, go shopping, do anything. Their management knows this. My goodness, it's like having to explain to adults that fire is hot. :roll:

If everyone thought that using the internet with secure sites and such was going to burn them just like fire as you say, then no one would do online banking, send their taxes to the IRS via the internet, or even email anything to anyone.

If someone hacked her computer and/or accounts and took her tax information (if she used tax software) that she saved to her computer and transmitted over the internet, or if she banks online like many of us do, and somebody took that information. It would be a surprise to many people and it would be criminal behavior by the person that did that, and not just the nature of the beast of being rich and famous.
 
Any of the she's partially responsible crowd would be livid if their money was stolen from their bank via Internet. I mean they knew it could be hacked. People are all the time trying to hack into banks. No difference between the bank account and their iCloud.
 
Those who own the photograph do have a right to privacy. They also have a responsibility to to take reasonable actions to maintain that privacy. Putting that stuff on the internet and expecting it to remain private IS NOT reasonable.

I know some people who have similar opinions about private property and those who park their car out on the street.
 
I know some people who have similar opinions about private property and those who park their car out on the street.

I'm not sure where you plan on going with this but if I leave a $100 bill on the dashboard of my car and park it on the street I would expect it to be there in the morning but if I came out and my window was smashed and the bill was gone I'd still be an idiot for having left it there.
 
I'm not sure where you plan on going with this but if I leave a $100 bill on the dashboard of my car and park it on the street I would expect it to be there in the morning but if I came out and my window was smashed and the bill was gone I'd still be an idiot for having left it there.

But what would you think if you didn't leave a $100 bill on the dashboard and you came out and your window was smashed?
 
But what would you think if you didn't leave a $100 bill on the dashboard and you came out and your window was smashed?

I'd think some asshole broke my window.
 
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