Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

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jamesrage said:

My thoughts exactly. Where the hell are these leaked photos at? I want to see some nude pictures of my favorite female celebs.

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They're not that good. Pretty much spoils the illusion they have crafted of themselves.

Phoenix said:

So here is a question for you. My friends house was broken into and they picked the keys up off the kitchen counter and also took his car. Is he responsible for them stealing his car because he left the keys on the counter?

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No. But if he left the keys in his car and the doors unlocked the insurance may not pay because he IS partially responsible.

grip said:

From what I heard, they didn't necessarily purposely put their photos on the internet. Being ignorant of how Apple's iCloud works they took naked photos and their software automatically uploads them to the Cloud, where hackers had access to it. If someone takes nude photos with other software it's not going to be accessible by others.

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I have an iPhone and I may have it backing up to the cloud (I don't think so, but maybe) but I also know that since I can connect to the internet over the phone I figure that the internet can also connect to my phone. For that reason I don't have any personal stuff on my phone. If someone wants to hack my high score on Soduko or see pics of my back yard I'm not going to be too pissed. If, however, they want to see pics of me naked they're going to have to get pretty damned creative because even if I was brazen enough to do something like that it damned sure wouldn't be on my phone.

DA60 said:

You have to take human nature into account.

Sure, legally and ethically....the thief was responsible.

But she is also indirectly responsible by making her photos available.

Those photos could not have been stolen from the Cloud had she not put them there.

So, like it or not, she is partially responsible.

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That is absurd. Why does it not apply in other cases where people own things and they are stolen? If someone steals your car are you responsible because you bought the car? Of course not and neither is she.

Phoenix said:

Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Isn't A 'Scandal.' It's A Sex Crime.


Scandal or Crime?
Owner of the photographs responsible or leaker responsible?

Personally I can't believe the number of people that claim it's the owner of the photographs fault for taking them in the 1st place. They have a right to privacy.

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The person who did the hacking is responsible. Blaming the people who photographed themselves is like blaming someone who bought gold instead of the person who broke into the safe and stole the gold.

clownboy said:

They're not that good. Pretty much spoils the illusion they have crafted of themselves.

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Share them and we'll see if we can come to a consensus. :2razz:

ARealConservative said:

the person that hacked into a private account to steal the photo is at fault. It isn't open to debate. those that said otherwise are morally bankrupt

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I did say that whoever hacked and leaked the photo is a fault and should be charged. Let me explain it this way. Let's say that you have 1 million dollars. Wouldn't you keep it in a safe and have that money super protected? I think anyone who has a reasonable mind would. Now let's say that you leave it on your kitchen table and you got to the store or somewhere. A person then breaks into your house and sees the money and takes it. Now that person whole stole is at fault and should go to jail. Now I think if the person wanted to keep that money absolutely safe they would protect it a little more. And everyone would call you an idiot for leaving the money out on the table. So both are at fault but the person who did wrong in the first place was the owner of the money.

grip said:

From what I heard, they didn't necessarily purposely put their photos on the internet. Being ignorant of how Apple's iCloud works they took naked photos and their software automatically uploads them to the Cloud, where hackers had access to it. If someone takes nude photos with other software it's not going to be accessible by others.

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It amazes me the number of people who have all this wiz bang technology and have no clue how it works beyond email, text, and calls. and angry birds.

jamesrage said:

The person who did the hacking is responsible. Blaming the people who photographed themselves is like blaming someone who bought gold instead of the person who broke into the safe and stole the gold.

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Agreed. The person who owns the photos should, as a practical necessity, protect them self from hacking, but any shortcoming on their part should never ever be used to justify or condone or rationalize stealing/hacking.

radcen said:

Share them and we'll see if we can come to a consensus. :2razz:

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You're on your own there. I found them easily, but didn't bother looking on the web where it's just as easy to tell who is looking at what and when.

braymoore said:

I did say that whoever hacked and leaked the photo is a fault and should be charged. Let me explain it this way. Let's say that you have 1 million dollars. Wouldn't you keep it in a safe and have that money super protected? I think anyone who has a reasonable mind would. Now let's say that you leave it on your kitchen table and you got to the store or somewhere. A person then breaks into your house and sees the money and takes it. Now that person whole stole is at fault and should go to jail. Now I think if the person wanted to keep that money absolutely safe they would protect it a little more. And everyone would call you an idiot for leaving the money out on the table. So both are at fault but the person who did wrong in the first place was the owner of the money.

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A better analogy is you keep your money in a bank and someone hacks into and steals your money. Are you at fault for having the money in an electronically accessible place?

Phoenix said:

So here is a question for you. My friends house was broken into and they picked the keys up off the kitchen counter and also took his car. Is he responsible for them stealing his car because he left the keys on the counter?

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Well sure he is. Nowadays you have to take every precaution possible to protect things inside your house. In my opinion there needed to be an option called "both are at fault" because that's the truth.

jamesrage said:

My thoughts exactly. Where the hell are these leaked photos at? I want to see some nude pictures of my favorite female celebs.

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Not me.

I have rarely seen a nude photo of a celebrity (who has never posed nude before) that I did not find superficially disappointing.

Pass.

Lutherf said:

I have an iPhone and I may have it backing up to the cloud (I don't think so, but maybe) but I also know that since I can connect to the internet over the phone I figure that the internet can also connect to my phone. For that reason I don't have any personal stuff on my phone. If someone wants to hack my high score on Soduko or see pics of my back yard I'm not going to be too pissed. If, however, they want to see pics of me naked they're going to have to get pretty damned creative because even if I was brazen enough to do something like that it damned sure wouldn't be on my phone.

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Yeah, but that's uncommon for most people to NOT use their phone for photo's, including sensitive ones. I think they were under the illusion that their photo's were not accessible from the Internet. Many of these software companies like Google and Apple want to merge everyone's personal data and have open access, which we now see is a flawed concept. And they don't openly explain how all their software works thoroughly, till something crappy happens.

DA60 said:

I'll remember to tell that to tell the next person who robs me...

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That's what drives me crazy about some of these topics recently. My wife went off on a nice 15 minute rant to me the other day about the women complaining about and lecturing people over the negatives of date-rape detecting finger nail polish.

We don't live in a utopia. It'd be nice if we could "end violence" or "end people invading peoples privacy" but to think that doing so is an achievable reality is naivity of the highest sort. That doesn't mean that as a society we should promote not engaging in violence and not violtaing peoples privacy, but it does mean that we shouldn't just ignore the realities and act like everyone should just carry along however they like.

WANTING there not to be violence or WANTING there not to be people who violate peoples privacy doesn't magically make it so; and if you live your life in a way that assumes those things don't exist simply because "they shouldn't" then you're going to have issues. Sorry, that's the truth.

And the dirty little secret is EVERYONE KNOWS THIS and generally engages in it; but they just don't want to acknowledge that when they're on their activist agendas. Why do I say that?

How many of you lock the doors to your house or your car every time you get out of your car?

Should you HAVE to lock your doors? Of course not. We should never fear that someone is going to come into our private property and take our stuffs. Our world shouldn't be one where such happens. But it does, and that's not going to magically stop even if we spend years and years as a society telling people that going into others private property and taking stuff is bad.

So we lock our stuff, because we know it's smart to take precautions against the realities of today. If we don't lock our stuff is it guaranteed it will be entered and things taken? Not necessarily. But there's a better chance that it's going to happen due to our irresponsability in light of reality. This is common sense type stuff that EVERYONE does.

Why it's okay to make believe that the world is a utopia and people should be free to act like that utopia exists in some cases, while in others it's routine to deal with reality as just that...reality

clownboy said:

You're on your own there. I found them easily, but didn't bother looking on the web where it's just as easy to tell who is looking at what and when.

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I fear dipwads creating false links with viruses and malware. I'm curious, but not that curious.

Gervais' comment was dead on the money here:

"Celebrities, make it harder for hackers to get nude pics of you from your computer by not putting nude pics of yourself on your computer."

radcen said:

I fear dipwads creating false links with viruses and malware. I'm curious, but not that curious.

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Try the usenet.

clownboy said:

Try the usenet.

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There's a blast from my past. lol

Phoenix said:

It amazes me the number of people who have all this wiz bang technology and have no clue how it works beyond email, text, and calls. and angry birds.

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I'm fairly adept at computing and software, and I'll admit they're adding options, functions and updating faster than most people can keep up with. I just turned off Google, Java and Nvidia from my OS - Start Menu, because they're nothing but resource wasting, snoopware that was installed with their programs.

braymoore said:

Well sure he is. Nowadays you have to take every precaution possible to protect things inside your house. In my opinion there needed to be an option called "both are at fault" because that's the truth.

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It's scary that some people think this way. If they hadn't committed a crime his car would not have been stolen.

Stealing people's private photos is wrong, so that would make the one stealing them responsible.

HOWEVER... Taking them at all when you're a celebrity or public figure and people out there will go through outrageous hoops to get them is pretty reckless and stupid unles1s you don't care if someone gets them. I don't care if they're digital or on film or tape or whatever, it's just a horrible idea. Celebrities need to set higher privacy standards on all devices, no password changing without receiving a confirmation text first, etc. No personal security questions when so much of their personal lives are a quick Google away.

This reaction is far from gender specific - thinking of Tony Weiner getting caught. I was harsher about him when his pics were on the web than I ever would be about JLaw.

apparently the only thing keeping some of you creeps from peeking in windows is the odds of getting caught, not because it is wrong to sneak around and obtain views of naked women against their wishes

radcen said:

There's a blast from my past. lol

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And I hope the uneducated masses keep thinking that. One of the oldest parts of the internet still going strong to this day. Most good providers still dev/null the logs.