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Thread: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    But the question is are you responsible for being robbed because you were carrying the money? Most would say no but also condemn these people fr having their private pictures.
    You have to take human nature into account.

    Sure, legally and ethically....the thief was responsible.

    But she is also indirectly responsible by making her photos available.

    Those photos could not have been stolen from the Cloud had she not put them there.

    So, like it or not, she is partially responsible.


    'responsibility

    [ri-spon-suh-bil-i-tee]
    noun, plural responsibilities.
    1.
    the state or fact of being responsible, answerable, or accountable for something within one's power, control, or management.'

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    She had it in her power to avoid this whole thing by simply (IMO) using common sense and not putting those photos in the cloud in the first place.
    Thus, she was technically responsible - to a small extent - for those photos being stolen.


    I am not going to debate this over and over....it's not REMOTELY important enough to me.

    You don't agree with me...fine.


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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Does someone have a link to the pics?
    My thoughts exactly. Where the hell are these leaked photos at? I want to see some nude pictures of my favorite female celebs.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Isn't A 'Scandal.' It's A Sex Crime.


    Scandal or Crime?
    Owner of the photographs responsible or leaker responsible?

    Personally I can't believe the number of people that claim it's the owner of the photographs fault for taking them in the 1st place. They have a right to privacy.
    First, the poll should allow for multiple options. It's the idiots fault for taking the photos in the first place and keeping them insecurely, the equivalent in the real world of leaving them lying around the house. It's the hackers fault for committing the crime of hacking the cloud and reposting them.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by braymoore View Post
    The question was who is responsible for the leaked photos. The answer to that question is simple. It's the person who took the photo's fault. Nowadays you have to think the following, "If I post or save this photo or whatever to the internet it could be leaked through hackers." With that being said I understand that hacking is a crime and I think whoever leaked the photos should be charged but that doesn't mean they were responsible for the photos. If she would have just left them on her camera or phone or whatever she probably wouldn't be in the situation she now finds herself. That's like blaming the teacher for the students bad grades. She needs to be more careful as well as all of us do.
    So here is a question for you. My friends house was broken into and they picked the keys up off the kitchen counter and also took his car. Is he responsible for them stealing his car because he left the keys on the counter?
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Personally I can't believe the number of people that claim it's the owner of the photographs fault for taking them in the 1st place. They have a right to privacy.
    This is pretty much a common response in the modern day of the internet regardless of whose pictures are being leaked out, male or female. That whole "don't put anything online that you don't want someone else to see".

    Taking the pictures doesn't mean they SHOULD be leaked and doesn't mitigate the blame that lies on the hands of those who hacked these celebs. But having a lack of sympathy for people who put items on the net and then have those items exposed has a LONG history that crosses gender lines.

    Criminally the person performing the hack is in the wrong. Morally, the person performing hte hack is in the wrong. But no, I'm not going to ignore the long standing notion that I and most others I'm sure have heard all our lives while growing up in the internet age...when you put things on the internet you always run the risk of someone finding it. Doesn't make them right when they do, but it also reduces my level of sympathy to a certain degree whenever something like this happens.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    My thoughts exactly. Where the hell are these leaked photos at? I want to see some nude pictures of my favorite female celebs.
    They're not that good. Pretty much spoils the illusion they have crafted of themselves.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    So here is a question for you. My friends house was broken into and they picked the keys up off the kitchen counter and also took his car. Is he responsible for them stealing his car because he left the keys on the counter?
    No. But if he left the keys in his car and the doors unlocked the insurance may not pay because he IS partially responsible.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    From what I heard, they didn't necessarily purposely put their photos on the internet. Being ignorant of how Apple's iCloud works they took naked photos and their software automatically uploads them to the Cloud, where hackers had access to it. If someone takes nude photos with other software it's not going to be accessible by others.
    I have an iPhone and I may have it backing up to the cloud (I don't think so, but maybe) but I also know that since I can connect to the internet over the phone I figure that the internet can also connect to my phone. For that reason I don't have any personal stuff on my phone. If someone wants to hack my high score on Soduko or see pics of my back yard I'm not going to be too pissed. If, however, they want to see pics of me naked they're going to have to get pretty damned creative because even if I was brazen enough to do something like that it damned sure wouldn't be on my phone.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You have to take human nature into account.

    Sure, legally and ethically....the thief was responsible.

    But she is also indirectly responsible by making her photos available.

    Those photos could not have been stolen from the Cloud had she not put them there.

    So, like it or not, she is partially responsible.
    That is absurd. Why does it not apply in other cases where people own things and they are stolen? If someone steals your car are you responsible because you bought the car? Of course not and neither is she.
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