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Thread: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Speaking strictly in terms of laws being broken, the leaker would be responsible for both breaking into iCloud and for any legal privacy violations.

    However, the logical trail of responsibility is longer, in order of precedence:
    1. The leaker is foremost responsible for the leak
    2. Apple is responsible for allowing the security breach
    3. Lawrence is responsible for putting pictures on the internet of a sensitive nature
    4. Lawrence is responsible for having the pictures taken

    That being said, #4 is pretty inconsequential. I'm certainly not suggesting she shouldn't have had the pictures taken, but obviously they couldn't have been leaked if they'd never been taken... so in a logical paper trail, it must be mentioned for completeness sake.

    #3 is what I'd scold her over. As I would scold anyone who puts anything on the internet they consider to be private. Even if Apple (or whatever other company) ensures your privacy, you shouldn't trust them. Obviously they can't guarantee with absolute certainty that what they store will remain private. No internet company can. If their machines are on the net, the possibility exists that hackers can make it through. Or the tl;dr version: assume anything you upload or post will be seen by the world. Never trust the middlemen. This is also true when talking on the phone and texting.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Yeah, I can't believe it either. People just kinda lose their common sense when anything to do with sex/women is involved. What if these were personal financial documents that were stolen? You think people would be saying it was their own fault for keeping that on their computers?? Heck no! It is a crime. But a woman with sexuality is not deserving of any respect, protection, or privacy apparently
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    It's scary that some people think this way. If they hadn't committed a crime his car would not have been stolen.
    Didn't say he committed a crime.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Mittner View Post
    Speaking strictly in terms of laws being broken, the leaker would be responsible for both breaking into iCloud and for any legal privacy violations.

    However, the logical trail of responsibility is longer, in order of precedence:
    1. The leaker is foremost responsible for the leak
    2. Apple is responsible for allowing the security breach
    3. Lawrence is responsible for putting pictures on the internet of a sensitive nature
    4. Lawrence is responsible for having the pictures taken

    That being said, #4 is pretty inconsequential. I'm certainly not suggesting she shouldn't have had the pictures taken, but obviously they couldn't have been leaked if they'd never been taken... so in a logical paper trail, it must be mentioned for completeness sake.

    #3 is what I'd scold her over. As I would scold anyone who puts anything on the internet they consider to be private. Even if Apple (or whatever other company) ensures your privacy, you shouldn't trust them. Obviously they can't guarantee with absolute certainty that what they store will remain private. No internet company can. If their machines are on the net, the possibility exists that hackers can make it through. Or the tl;dr version: assume anything you upload or post will be seen by the world. Never trust the middlemen. This is also true when talking on the phone and texting.
    Assuming she was aware that her photos were being stored by Apple (its not clear to me that she did) I'd tend to agree though I also believe companies who offer storage on their servers have a responsibility to insure the security of your data to the point where there should be legal liability if they don't.

    That said the worst you can say is she was careless. That in no way excuses the theft - not suggesting you're saying that but the point needs to be made.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Assuming she was aware that her photos were being stored by Apple I'd tend to agree though I also believe companies who offer storage on their servers have a responsibility to insure the security of your data to the point where there should be legal liability if they don't
    Then they would never store anything, imo.

    Info is almost always hackable eventually. And a company could face genormous lawsuits if it assumed legal responsibility for the safe storage of all the millions/billions of pics/vids they could theoretically store.


    The solution is simple - never put sensitive photos/videos in the Cloud.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Not exactly.

    In the case of someone like Kate Upton her body is her primary asset. From a purely business perspective she should take any and all reasonable actions to preserve her image...just like Warren Buffet should protect his financial documents. Yeah, she got hacked and the hacker took something of value from her so he (presumably a "he") should be held accountable if caught but she should also be more cautious about what she does with imagery that might negatively impact her marketability.
    Well I'm sure she will be. But the point here is that this hacking ability is scary. Sure, this time it's some naked pictures, and you can avoid that next time by not having naked pictures. But that doesn't really solve the problem at hand. People are going to use computers and cell phones. They are a necessity today. So how can we make sure our sensitive information will be secure? It's unreasonable to expect everyone stop online banking, shopping online, filing their taxes online, or storing financial documents electronically.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    What I want to know is when McKayla Maroney will be arrested for child pornography... after all she has admitted that she took photos of herself naked when she was underage and that is a not allowed in the US as we have seen before...
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Whether it's a crime depends on the relevant criminal codes, but I think it probably should be.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    But my name isn't Tom
    maybe the laws won't apply to you then. no sense seeking out naked pictures on the internet when you have your entire neighborhood to violate.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    We have privacy rights in this country, even a person poor personal choices,
    should be kept private, unless permission is granted for it's release.
    But that's not the way it works in reality and people have to take responsibility for their actions, including putting things they don't want to see online, even in a "secure" setting. If you don't want anyone seeing it, keep it on your own computer.
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