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Thread: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You are continuing to put focus on the victim's responsibility, not the perpetrator's.

    Until you can come to terms with this, you and I are just going to go round in circles.
    You mean until YOU come to terms with it. The crime that the hackers committed is settled business. I don't think anyone here has argued they are blameless. YOU however seem to think these folks, who make their living having their lives be public business, have no responsibility to keep private what they want to be private. In an age where celebrities make sex tapes specifically to be "leaked", that's incredibly nave.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'd think some asshole broke my window.
    And some other asshole would think it served you right for leaving your car out on the street.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    What I honestly don't understand is why someone would want to look at the photos. I mean, you can easily just go on the internet and look at photos and videos of women consenting to have their sexual activities known. Why not just do that? Looking that those photos is just creepy.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And some other asshole would think it served you right for leaving your car out on the street.
    Well I guess that just gets right back to my comment about the expectation of privacy and taking reasonable steps to preserve that privacy.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    If everyone thought that using the internet with secure sites and such was going to burn them just like fire as you say, then no one would do online banking, send their taxes to the IRS via the internet, or even email anything to anyone.

    If someone hacked her computer and/or accounts and took her tax information (if she used tax software) that she saved to her computer and transmitted over the internet, or if she banks online like many of us do, and somebody took that information. It would be a surprise to many people and it would be criminal behavior by the person that did that, and not just the nature of the beast of being rich and famous.
    The average person does not live their lives in the public domain. AND you shouldn't do online banking if you think there is no chance of your private info getting out. It is not near 100% secure. If you haven't heard this many times by now, you're living under a rock somewhere.

    ANYTHING you post online can be intercepted. There is no "private" and what you post persists. Welcome to the Worldwide Web 101A. It never was and the system wasn't designed for it, it was designed to share everything. You do know why the web was developed in the first place right? It didn't become commercial until later.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    What I honestly don't understand is why someone would want to look at the photos. I mean, you can easily just go on the internet and look at photos and videos of women consenting to have their sexual activities known. Why not just do that? Looking that those photos is just creepy.
    The forbidden, the hidden have always been major attractants. It's part of the curiosity that is written into us.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And some other asshole would think it served you right for leaving your car out on the street.
    And they'd be right to say so ONLY is there was a known history of smashed car windows for anyone who parked on that street.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well I guess that just gets right back to my comment about the expectation of privacy and taking reasonable steps to preserve that privacy.
    Precisely!!

    The questions are:

    1) do people who put information on the internet have a reasonable expectation of privacy even though they know that it's possible for that information to be stolen?

    2) Is putting that info in a place with security measure constitute "reasonable steps"?


    What I see is a lot of people claiming that "everyone knows" that "anything you put on the internet can be accessed" (as if that were somehow different from something you keep in your home, or the car you park on the street (or you garage))

    The fact is, nothing is absolutely secure. Does that mean nobody should ever do anything that might embarrass them? That would probaly be a good idea, but not a very realistic one.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Whoever stole the photos is guilty of a crime. That person isn't the only one responsible though.

    The people who took those photos, and then trusted them to iCloud are responsible. Apple is responsible because clearly they aren't protecting the data they're storing well enough. And the hacker is responsible because he/she/they stole and distributed it.

    What the hacker did was immoral and illegal, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for the people whose photos leaked. If you take naked pictures of yourself and send them to another person (or post them online), they're out of your control at that point, and you don't have much right to be offended if they become public. This goes double if you're famous.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Precisely!!

    The questions are:

    1) do people who put information on the internet have a reasonable expectation of privacy even though they know that it's possible for that information to be stolen?

    2) Is putting that info in a place with security measure constitute "reasonable steps"?


    What I see is a lot of people claiming that "everyone knows" that "anything you put on the internet can be accessed" (as if that were somehow different from something you keep in your home, or the car you park on the street (or you garage))

    The fact is, nothing is absolutely secure. Does that mean nobody should ever do anything that might embarrass them? That would probaly be a good idea, but not a very realistic one.
    OK.

    If I park my car on the street in my neighborhood I would figure it would be pretty safe. I live in a good neighborhood and haven't even heard of a break in in the 12 years I've been there. However, if every week another car was being broken into I'd park in the garage. If someone doesn't know that the internet isn't particularly secure they have been living in a hole for way too long.

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