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Thread: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    What? I think you're lost the thread of what we were discussing.
    I think you have.

    If someone sends you a picture, you now have rights to that picture. You can show others the picture that was sent to you unless they can somehow prove that you agreed to not show it.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    "at some places called 4chan and AnonIB"

    The most trolliest sites ever made in the history of mankind. Pretty much up there with reddit.

    These sites are the ones people go to to have their brain cells fried.

    The "hackers" themselves weren't even that smart. A glitch on Apple's part simply allowed them to try as many times to get the password as they want (normally the account locks after X tries).

    Sorry about that little aside, it was just in case people here didn't know what these sites were.

    As for the OP...

    Lawrence, upton, rafael, etc. are all morons for:

    #1 having nude photos in the first place (what's the point?)

    #2 putting said photos on any kind of internet storage (you got looks, but clearly no brains)

    #3 whining that this happened
    Based on a few pictures I saw of Jennifer Lawrence, I think she was just having fun with a boyfriend or whatever. But instead of like the old days when nude pictures may have been taken with a Polaroid camera and the picture put in some dresser drawer, they were stored digitally some place that was thought to be safe but obviously was not. I think it is a big wake-up call for everyone about their personal data and the internet.

    I think it is a crime though, because if someone guesses the door code to my car and takes what is in it, it is still wrong of them to do that and take my stuff.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Oh, and this needs multiple choice.

    The leaker is responsible, and it's a crime and a "scandal". The actual hacking of the accounts is a crime. The media coverage and the aftermath as it relates to internet traffic is a scandal.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Supposedly, the photos got "pushed" into the cloud when their phones had reached memory capacity, or something like that. They didn't actively put them there.

    For whatever that's worth.
    There's truth to what you say.

    I have pictures I took of my family over the Christmas holiday using my cellphone and noticed that those pictures are now stored in the cloud. I didn't send them there; it happened because my cellphone lacked sufficient storage space.

    Nonetheless, speaking strictly to the liability issue addressed in the OP, I'd say there sufficient responsibility to go around:

    - Jennifer Lawrence for taking nude pictures of herself using her iphone/smartphone. These things are mini-computers!

    - The cellphone company for not security the data stored in the cloud.

    - The hacker for leaking the photos.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Does someone have a link to the pics?
    I only saw ones with black boxes over the yummy parts. I'm sure they're out there.

    Fact is most of these ladies have already showed the goods for money and they're only mad now because people are getting to see them for free.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I think you have.

    If someone sends you a picture, you now have rights to that picture. You can show others the picture that was sent to you unless they can somehow prove that you agreed to not show it.

    I see where you're trying to go, you just didn't like the Weiner example. There are plenty more. So okay, I'll give up that example. Now, that still doesn't prove your point.

    Btw, on that last, no. The photographer keeps the rights to their photo, even if they share it with other individuals. They still retain the rights where it comes to public display of the photograph.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Obviously that's the point, NOT a secured server and you may wish to rethink making purchases online. I purchase online, but I don't let them keep my CC info and I keep track.

    Again, these folks are in the business of leading public lives. They KNOW everything they do online can be exposed to the public. Their management knows.
    Would you be okay if a celebrity got his or her credit card number hacked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I expect my online credit card information to be private too. That being said, I have ONE card I use just for online purchases because although I expect privacy I also understand that such privacy can be compromised.
    Yes, but that in no way shape or form lessens the burden of guilt from the hacker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    All too true. Purchases on line - like the current information as well as the Home Depot hack which has now inflicted a possible 70 million people are not secure. Fact is NO information is secure online. It's a bad expectation to think otherwise. The FBI, the CIA have been breached in the past. No system online is secure - ever. The only way to keep something secure is to not allow it online at all. Every purchase, every banking transaction on the internet, every bit of information, every password, picture, event.... all of it is at risk.
    Great. Now how do we discourage hacking and shift the blame onto them, where it belongs?
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I only saw ones with black boxes over the yummy parts. I'm sure they're out there.

    Fact is most of these ladies have already showed the goods for money and they're only mad now because people are getting to see them for free.
    Actually that's not true. That's part of the appeal of the leak. Many of the big names...like Upton and Lawrence...have never done nude shots. Hell, there was a whole skit as the oscars about actresses whose Boobs we've seen on Movies and mentioning how Jennifer Lawerence wasn't on that list yet.

    Arieanna Grande and Mikahala Maroney (I butchered that spelling of both) haven't done nude things. Olivia Munn has done topless, but I believe this leak supposedly included a nude bottom of her as well.

    Many of those in the leak have never been nude on film in any public fashion.

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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Mostly those that hacked it and leaked it.

    Partly her for being so staggeringly naive as to put nude photos of herself in the Cloud.


    NEVER put anything in the Cloud you are not prepared for EVERYONE to eventually see.
    The only thing (thus far) that is clear in regard to Apple's complicity is that by default your photos are uploaded to iCloud. Thus far, what we also know is that many celebrities had weak passwords, did not have two-factor verification, and had not deleted the iCloud backups.
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    Re: Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Who is responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Btw, on that last, no. The photographer keeps the rights to their photo, even if they share it with other individuals. They still retain the rights where it comes to public display of the photograph.
    They retain commercial rights to the photo, they don’t have a right to keep the photo private. So nice try, but every excuse you have given to justify perverted activity has failed.

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