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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Well Pakistan and India managed to go to war with each other whilest both sides had nuclear capacity, without anihalating each other.

    But the fact that we are debating this is scary enought.
    Luckily MAD is still almost stable. That is changing, however, as you know. Give it another 20 years plus, no robust solution to the multi-polarity problem paired with proliferation and MAD will be more or less defunct. That is when the .... hits the fan.

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Suppose we just focused on preventing a war with Russia, that would cost far more blood and treasure then what we've seen in the ME. It's not worth it preventing what we in part caused.
    Butt out of the poll if you don't want to participate.

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I guess I didn't understand where you were going. It seems from this post that people saying Putin is a better leader than Obama isn't relevant.
    I agree. I didn't post that.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    To answer this question, probably not all Americans would get behind him because we seem to be split into 3s. Far right (who will always detest Obama), far left (who will always support him), and the middle who will swing around. I *think* most people would support a military action against Russia if it was the right thing to do, and I don't know if it's the right thing to do.

    I didn't vote for Obama either time, but if he made a good decision that was collectively made by military experts and Congress, and not Valerie Jarrett, then yes, I would absolutely support him.

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Obama? He should be happy that Putin was playing the Europeans. You will admit that Putin played his game well. He showed up the EU for the hypocrites and irrealists they are and how well you can trust the EU to guaranty peace and security even in Europe and how that organization supports its friends after getting them into this mess. And here lies the upside for Obama deserved or not. Even the populations in the EU have noticed how unspeakable their politicians have acted and that the EU is not the guarantor of security the EU lobby has sold the "Always closer EU" project on.
    What exactly are you referring to when you say the Europeans were "hypocrites" and "irrealists" [sic]. Are you another one of those that claim the Europeans were behind the overthrow of Russia's puppet that refused the wishes of the people to become part of the EU?

    Since when does Europe have the duty to come to the aid of a non-NATO noneuropean country? Are you faulting them for not wanting to get in a war with Russia?
    Last edited by EnigmaO01; 09-03-14 at 03:47 PM.

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You don't "THINK" it would go that far. The only reason to ever risk it would be if Russia was attempting to annex Florida by referendum, not Crimea or east Ukraine.
    No one ever said we should risk it, especially myself. Get a hold if yourself and realize this is a hypothetical poll question.

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    With systems like "Iron Dome" and secret supersonic missiles, we may develop or even already have a defense against ICBM's. The only caveat to that would be the submarines capable of short range launch from coastal areas, and whatever slips thru a missile shield. The point being, that we don't know how heads of state would react knowing they posses such defensive measures, and whether we'd actually engage the Russian military directly.

    If we ever accidentally slipped into a US/NATO conflict with Russia, it would either 'end' or 'escalate' quickly. I sincerely doubt it would be a long, drawn out affair.
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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    would those that keep complaining that Obama isn't doing enough (without any solutions of course) back him and the country and stop the petty snarking of of our CIC? I keep hearing how inept the president is and how they admire Putin, and just wonder if that would change?
    Probably similar to when Bush engaged the country in war with our enemies. Everyone would stop being snarky of our President and you would stop hearing bad things about him...oh, wait...that is not exactly how that played out now is it?

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What exactly are you referring to when you say the Europeans were "hypocrites" and "irrealists" [sic]. Are you another one of those that claim the Europeans were behind the overthrow of Russia's puppet that refused the wishes of the people to become part of the EU?

    Since when does Europe have the duty to come to the aid of a non-NATO noneuropean country? Are you faulting them for not wanting to get in a war with Russia?
    Don't be silly. I am referring to title2, Article 7 of the treaty without appropriate measures to secure the nation's integrity and populations safty

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Don't be silly. I am referring to title2, Article 7 of the treaty without appropriate measures to secure the nation's integrity and populations safty

    What treaty?

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    Re: If the U.S. got involved in a war with Russia...

    To answer the question we would be falling all over ourselves trying to be polite and politically correct for the cameras while Russia rolled us under with decades old equipment our armchair administration considers out of style and therefore ineffective. The best of our soldiers would be sidelined by rules of engagement and Obama would still be attending fund raisers.

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