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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Neither Bush nor Chaney were ever impeached, nor were they ever convicted of any crime to be pardoned.

    And no about the international image. Of course our enemies would think that, no matter what we did. But the feeling at the time internationally was one of relief and that Nixon did his job, protecting America, to the last. The pardon was expected by EVERYONE, here and around the globe.
    And Ford lost the next election and the Republican party has been in the toilet since. I don't remember a feeling of relief at all. I remember a great deal of outrage over it. The country has suffered a great deal over our inability to deal seriously with crooks in the executive office. Yet Congress went after Clinton on a BJ...!
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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I had to vote good or yes because if we start that slippery slope of not giving presidents leeway on some things, that could open a barrel of worms for all other past and present presidents. We all did notice the acquittal of Clinton by congress, did we not? Even though he committed adultery and lied about it.
    Actually no, Clinton WAS impeached. He was NOT acquitted. He just wasn't removed from office.

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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Edit: DOH!!! Yes = good, no = bad. Sorry about that.
    The Nixon pardon was a good thing for the country because it saved America from 6 and possibly 10 years of a Gerald Ford Presidency. The shortened Ford Presidency hastened a quick dalliance with the "Washington outside" fancy and a shortened Jimmy Carter Presidency and led triumphantly to Ronald Reagan's "morning in America" which was desperately needed by the American people and the world at large.
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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    And Ford lost the next election and the Republican party has been in the toilet since. I don't remember a feeling of relief at all. I remember a great deal of outrage over it. The country has suffered a great deal over our inability to deal seriously with crooks in the executive office. Yet Congress went after Clinton on a BJ...!
    Ford didn't lose because of that and yes, there was a huge sigh of relief. No one wanted anything other than a pardon, except for a few hippies who didn't understand Nixon withdrew troops from Vietnam, it was Johnson who put them there. Of course the hippies hated Johnson too. Partisanship wasn't so much broken down by party lines then, but ideological ones.

    And finally, NO. Just quit with the stupid slogans. Clinton was not impeached for a bj. I suggest you read a little history BEFORE Hillary starts her run for the office.

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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    And Ford lost the next election and the Republican party has been in the toilet since. I don't remember a feeling of relief at all. I remember a great deal of outrage over it. The country has suffered a great deal over our inability to deal seriously with crooks in the executive office. Yet Congress went after Clinton on a BJ...!
    I stand ready to be schooled on my American history, but I'm pretty sure there has been a Republican in the White House for more years than a Democrat since the resignation of Richard Nixon - I believe after Obama completes his term they will be tied, except for Ford's conclusion of the Nixon term. That's hardly being in the toilet.
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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually no, Clinton WAS impeached. He was NOT acquitted. He just wasn't removed from office.
    Impeachment of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    The House impeaches, the Senate decides the fate of the impeached, the sentence.

    Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice, on December 19, 1998.
    Impeachment of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I like the way Nixon handled it, didn't like the way Clinton handled it. Both knew they were guilty, only one stepped down to spare the country.
    That's a big rewrite of history...

    Nixon had entrenched, he was dragged out of office kicking and screaming that what he did was no different than what others had done before, just like Obama does today.

    Clinton turned it into a pure partisan game, dividing the country. Part of the reason Bush won was because of that.

    Nixon was talked into quitting by members of his own party.
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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    That's a big rewrite of history...

    Nixon had entrenched, he was dragged out of office kicking and screaming that what he did was no different than what others had done before, just like Obama does today.

    Clinton turned it into a pure partisan game, dividing the country. Part of the reason Bush won was because of that.

    Nixon was talked into quitting by members of his own party.
    That doesn't comport with anyone's view. Not anyone who was there. Did you never catch the Nixon interviews or the interviews with his cabinet afterwards?

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    Re: In hindsight, was the Nixon pardon good or bad for the country?

    The Nixon pardon set the precedent that as long as you're in a position of power then you are not held to the same standards as everyone else. Had it been anybody else they would have been thrown behind bars.

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