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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course, the question isn't if the government should force them to change, but if they should change. Would it be right for them to do so?

    If Snyder wants to continue to give everybody a big middle finger, that's his right. It is, however, damaging the very brand he wants to protect.
    I think that's highly questionable. One could make just as strong, if not stronger, of an argument that changing a brand that's one of the most profitable in all of sports, and whose fan base rank "tradition" and "history" as some of it's most compelling factors for fandom, would actually be harmed FAR more by completely changing said brand than they are by continuing to push something that the vast majority of people, both in general and within the native american population, don't actually care about.

    Not to mention, giving into that vocal minority may be no longer giving THEM the finger, but it WOULD be giving the finger to a whole different group of people that is significantly large and also does include a fair number of native americans as well (Who have actively suggested support for the name and offense over the notion of changing it)

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The only reason I'd like to see it changed is just because I'm ****ing tired of hearing about it. Should it be changed because it's wrong? No. This isn't a question of right and wrong.
    If it was "The Washington White People" and the logo was a soldier and the mascot was a soldier, and there's a 'fight song', you wouldn't see a problem with that?

    Perhaps "The Washington Asians" and their logo can be "2+2 ftw"? Their mascot can be a math professor with a blackboard.
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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The only reason I'd like to see it changed is just because I'm ****ing tired of hearing about it. Should it be changed because it's wrong? No. This isn't a question of right and wrong.
    And it's this response that the jackasses in the media are going for by attempting to push this again and again and again. It's why facts and correctness is of no importance to them. It's why the coverage is almost always slanted and idiotic arguments and conspiracies that don't make logical sense keep getting brought up. One such example is Chris Mortensen tonight suggesting that Snyder moved the team out of DC to stop dealing with DC law makers pushing him about the name; despite the fact that Dan Snyder didn't own the team when they left the DC area and the reasons for the move had nothing to do with the name in the least. But god forbid ESPN let FACTS dictate their agenda driven propaganda.

    The goal is simple and two fold....wear down those who don't care or who do defend the name so that they just give in our of fatigue, or convince people that the name is bad through any means necessary no matter how logically inane, factually dishonest, or hypocritically inconsistent.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And it's this response that the jackasses in the media are going for by attempting to push this again and again and again. It's why facts and correctness is of no importance to them. It's why the coverage is almost always slanted and idiotic arguments and conspiracies that don't make logical sense keep getting brought up. One such example is Chris Mortensen tonight suggesting that Snyder moved the team out of DC to stop dealing with DC law makers pushing him about the name; despite the fact that Dan Snyder didn't own the team when they left the DC area and the reasons for the move had nothing to do with the name in the least. But god forbid ESPN let FACTS dictate their agenda driven propaganda.
    The worst is people that think it's about someone being offended. That's a level or two of thinking below mine.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The worst is people that think it's about someone being offended. That's a level or two of thinking below mine.
    Enlighten us oh wise one.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Generally speaking I couldn't give a ****.

    But if Native Americans want the name change, I think it should.

    We wouldn't have kept the Washington Niggers would we?
    Was there a team by that name? Didn't think so...
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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Was there a team by that name? Didn't think so...
    Nope. If so we would have had a lawsuit by now.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What say you?
    While it's not an issue that I see as really a big deal, I voted no. I think, at this point, the negative connotations it had in the past are sort of diluted and meaningless now. And I think we have been past it for awhile. There are a lot of Redskins fans from my home town/region in Virginia, and really, for a long time (in my youth and even into early adulthood), I didn't think about the name much. At some point I realized, hey, that's actually kind of racist. But I think it's more of a historical thing now. The Redskins, as a team, have a long history and a very loyal fan base. And while I don't think that changing their name would be a bad thing, I also don't think it necessarily has to be changed.

    And there is a pretty large concentration of Cherokee people and heritage here (of which I am partly descended from), and the general sense, at least in my area, is that they don't care or simply aren't offended by it.

    Ultimately, if they choose to change their name, cool. If not, cool. To me, anyway.
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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think that's highly questionable. One could make just as strong, if not stronger, of an argument that changing a brand that's one of the most profitable in all of sports, and whose fan base rank "tradition" and "history" as some of it's most compelling factors for fandom, would actually be harmed FAR more by completely changing said brand than they are by continuing to push something that the vast majority of people, both in general and within the native american population, don't actually care about.

    Not to mention, giving into that vocal minority may be no longer giving THEM the finger, but it WOULD be giving the finger to a whole different group of people that is significantly large and also does include a fair number of native americans as well (Who have actively suggested support for the name and offense over the notion of changing it)
    SOME Native Americans have supported the name. There are also those against it.

    SOME slaves fought for the Confedracy too, but that doesn't make slavery OK.


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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    They could always change it to the White Christian Males, and watch everyone switch sides.

    Even better - the Crackers


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