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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What say you?
    Yes but shouldn't be required to change it.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    "...In point of fact, a wide variety of Native American groups and tribes have come out against the name, including the National Congress of American Indians, the United South and Eastern Tribes, the Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians, the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, the Comanche Nation of Oklahoma, the Fort Peck Tribal Executive Board, the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians, the Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council, the Gun Lake Band of Potawatomi Indians, the Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes, the Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, the Juaneno Band of Mission Indians, the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, the Menominee Tribe of Indians, the Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin, the Oneida Indian Nation, the Poarch Band of Creek Indians, the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, the Sault St. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation, the Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation, the United Indian Nations of Oklahoma, and so on, according to leaders of the protest movement."
    Maybe I'm a boring pragmatic but wouldn't it be more useful for these organizations to band together and assist the Washington Redskins with the name change? I'm sure they could raise sufficient funds to help the owner with some of the necessary costs associated with this change. They could also assist with a Washington DC area Campaign to rename the team and find out what other names would be acceptable to Redskin fans.

    When a highly successful person feels like he is getting pushed around he isn't going to submit to any of your demands even if they are reasonable and good. This could be worked out if one side was willing to swallow their pride with the understanding that the other side will never swallow their pride. That's how you get things done. You get more flies with honey than with vinegar.

    Since neither the National Congress of American Indians, the United South and Eastern Tribes, the Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians, the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, the Comanche Nation of Oklahoma, the Fort Peck Tribal Executive Board, the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians, the Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council, the Gun Lake Band of Potawatomi Indians, the Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes, the Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, the Juaneno Band of Mission Indians, the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, the Menominee Tribe of Indians, the Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin, the Oneida Indian Nation, the Poarch Band of Creek Indians, the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, the Sault St. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation, the Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation or the United Indian Nations of Oklahoma have any legal justification for their case I would suggest they be the side that compromises in order to get this accomplished. The owner won't be bullied around. If you bully him more he'll be even less inclined to reason. If you bully him a little bit more than that he'll be even less likely to listen to reasonable request. If you bully him more than that he could just quit listening altogether and nothing will ever get accomplished.

    This can only be accomplished if one side is willing to chose action over winning. Winning feels good but it should be about more than just winning. The name probably does need to be changed but you have to be willing to do what it takes to make that happen.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    I think it should be changed and until it is the owner of the Redskins won't see one red cent of my money.

    I don't think the government should force the guy to change he's team's name, but neither would I be too upset if they did. There are certainly worse uses for government than bullying idiots.
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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I think it should be changed and until it is the owner of the Redskins won't see one red cent of my money.
    He doesn't care about your money. He gets enough money through other fans. Try a different approach. That won't work.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What say you?
    Hell no.I wish these butt hurt effeminate pussies whining that the redskins should change their name would find better things to complain about. The idea that it is used as a racial slur is absurd.I have heard people use the term prairie nigger as a racial slur for Indians, but I have never heard someone use the term redskin as a racial slur.
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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    Yes, but only if they change it to something more offensive.

    Otherwise, leave it alone and just change the team logo to a potato.
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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, but only if they change it to something more offensive.
    That's a good one.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I think it should be changed and until it is the owner of the Redskins won't see one red cent of my money.
    So I take it you don't purchase anything from the NFL or contribute to anything that would help justify their ability to sell advertising and television rights? Because the NFL engages in revenue sharing, which means support to the NFL is ultimately financially supporting it's teams...including the Redskins.

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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    America is a wonderful, wacky place.

    In one corner, you have strong support for a guy who refuses to stand during the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance although it offends every other member in the audience and a vast majority of Americans and he's trumpeted as a free speech hero, defender of the first amendment, and an all around saint for taking a stand by sitting on his ass.

    In another corner, you have Daniel Snider, a guy who defends to the death his right to retain a century old name for a team he alone owns and a team whose fans love the tradition and history of the name, and many of the same people who support the free speech rights of the previously mentioned Chief Sit on My Ass are in high dudgeon over another stance that offends far fewer.
    Of course, the question isn't if the government should force them to change, but if they should change. Would it be right for them to do so?

    If Snyder wants to continue to give everybody a big middle finger, that's his right. It is, however, damaging the very brand he wants to protect.


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    Re: Do you think the Washington Redskins NFL team should change their name?

    The only reason I'd like to see it changed is just because I'm ****ing tired of hearing about it. Should it be changed because it's wrong? No. This isn't a question of right and wrong.
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