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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    I'll be flying on 9-11, but admit I'm a little apprehensive. Not about my flight, but about our country experiencing some sort of attack on that day. Let's just hope the terrorists remain as ineffective as our president. Neither of them seem to be able to find their own butts with both hands.

    I wouldn't mind a higher state of security this year. Then again, that might result in a full body pat down by a butch TSA agent. I could do without that.
    That will be one of the safest days to fly.

    When Pan Am Flight 103 blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland I wait a week or so and booked Pan Am to London and Flight 103 coming back. I knew I'd get a hell of a deal (and I did). I also knew that would be a very safe flight. It was.










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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    If there is no credible threat, there is no need. The world is not more screwed up than usual.

    I'm pretty sure most such steps are mere security theater anyway.
    The world is more screwed up today than it was back on January of 2009 and that's a fact jack.

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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    What nonsense. The US is a big country, and the vast majority of it faces no threat at all. If we know of a specific threat, we should take steps. Acting because "boo scarey bad guys exist!" is a waste of resources.

    Try again.....its not nonsense for Americans to be on alert for themselves. Whether here or overseas. Hey you want to watch TV and your entertainers and do what you do, while ignoring some obvious events that have taken place. Including your own government talking in circles while playing catch up with those against us in issue of the War on Terror. Then that's on you. Again, to be aware is to be alive.

    Oh and I doubt I would tremble in ANY way whatsoever dealing with those of this type. Or really any others either. So save all that BS about the Big Bad scary guys from overseas or those who hide behind man made laws.

    Taking any measures that increase Security for some.....such as those of the State Dept or that call for them to lock down due to events is prudent. Even if they do not raise the level for the Physical Country. It should be done for those overseas in that region and all across Northern Africa. Especially with Travel bans up and Embassies that have been evacuated showing the perspective for what it is.

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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    I don't think the airports are any less secure (in this country). If I wanted to do serious collateral damage to the USA I would target a place with a lot of people, like a large shopping mall or a school. (No, don't read anything into that...I'm not going to attack anyone). That said, we can hardly shut down shopping malls and schools, just like I always argued about 9/11 that even with intelligence that said they were going to try to involve planes, WTF was Bush supposed to do - ground our entire air system indefinitely? He couldn't, for obvious reasons.

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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....Sept has arrived. We are down to 10 more days until the Anniversary of 911. We have asked others to up their security and watch for those who have Passports with their Airports. We have had to evacuate our Embassies in Iraq and Libya. We have AQAP threatening and taunting us in their New Magazine. Then we have ISIL who has threatened to come after us if we didn't stop the airstrikes on them. We continued and now they are vocal and probing us.

    Last year BO did not set the Nation at the highest level. He didn't do so in 2012 and We lost an Ambassador in Libya. With the way things have been with our relations overseas. Should we take any chances this year? What say ye?
    Maybe but I honestly don't see what difference it makes. If someone is willing to died themselves if it means they get to kill you, there's not a whole lot you can do. Actually there are things we can do but we really don't want to. Another topic.

    I guess and hope the NSA, FBI, CIA, etc. and on their jobs.
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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    That will be one of the safest days to fly.

    When Pan Am Flight 103 blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland I wait a week or so and booked Pan Am to London and Flight 103 coming back. I knew I'd get a hell of a deal (and I did). I also knew that would be a very safe flight. It was.
    Risky, I'm not sure what the actually amounts have been spent to fight wars in the middle east, but I've seen estimates as high as $3 trillion thus far. But for the sake of argument, let's say about half that much.

    Imagine what type of security that America might be enjoying if a trillion and a half dollars spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan were poured directly into high-tech security technology to be used here (American borders and territories), but also in high-tech intelligence to be used in unfriendly countries.

    Such an investment would have been way more enduring for the present and the future, and much less costly of American and foreign lives. Approximately 600,000 Americans have been in the Middle East. Deaths - too many. Injured warriors by the tens of thousands, which will cost our nation billions and billions over the next 30 to 40 years for ongoing medical care.

    How much would it cost to install missile detection devises on commercial airliners - and of course mount an anti-missile missile or two? If on-board security is a serious concern...have armed Air Marshalls located in three places inside each flight. I don't know have many years it would take for Air Marshalls' pay to eat up a trillion bucks, but I bet it's be over a very long time.

    I don't think most people realize how much a trillion of anything is. Well, check it out:


    If you stack a trillion-worth of "$1000 bills" together, then:

    1 million dollars = 4 inches high

    1 billion dollars = 364 feet high


    1 trillion dollars = 63 miles high

    (give or take a foot or two)

    How much is a trillion dollars? | IHTD

    With as much money that's been spent on war over the last 13 years we could stop the second coming of Christ over America and it's territories.

    Just sayin.

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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Risky, I'm not sure what the actually amounts have been spent to fight wars in the middle east, but I've seen estimates as high as $3 trillion thus far. But for the sake of argument, let's say about half that much.

    Imagine what type of security that America might be enjoying if a trillion and a half dollars spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan were poured directly into high-tech security technology to be used here (American borders and territories), but also in high-tech intelligence to be used in unfriendly countries.

    Such an investment would have been way more enduring for the present and the future, and much less costly of American and foreign lives. Approximately 600,000 Americans have been in the Middle East. Deaths - too many. Injured warriors by the tens of thousands, which will cost our nation billions and billions over the next 30 to 40 years for ongoing medical care.

    How much would it cost to install missile detection devises on commercial airliners - and of course mount an anti-missile missile or two? If on-board security is a serious concern...have armed Air Marshalls located in three places inside each flight. I don't know have many years it would take for Air Marshalls' pay to eat up a trillion bucks, but I bet it's be over a very long time.

    I don't think most people realize how much a trillion of anything is. Well, check it out:


    If you stack a trillion-worth of "$1000 bills" together, then:

    1 million dollars = 4 inches high

    1 billion dollars = 364 feet high


    1 trillion dollars = 63 miles high

    (give or take a foot or two)

    How much is a trillion dollars? | IHTD

    With as much money that's been spent on war over the last 13 years we could stop the second coming of Christ over America and it's territories.

    Just sayin.
    Good points, bruv. It would work indeed. I think, however, the money that owns Congress at present is military/industrial and as such tech giants don't yet own Washington. As long as neocons and Teabaggers can gum up the works in DC every problem will be confronted with a military/industrial hammer.










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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Good points, bruv. It would work indeed. I think, however, the money that owns Congress at present is military/industrial and as such tech giants don't yet own Washington. As long as neocons and Teabaggers can gum up the works in DC every problem will be confronted with a military/industrial hammer.
    Neo-Cons and Teabaggers? What about the Neo Libs and their devotion to becoming a citizen of the world. We wouldn't want you to forget that other half that's into Nation building while trying to spread Blue Bonnet on it with all their so called, good intentions.....which rarely come out in any solution.

    Also many Tea Partiers I know.....are more closer towards isolationism or dealing with direct threats. Not about loading up others with weapons and arms either.

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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Neo-Cons and Teabaggers? What about the Neo Libs and their devotion to becoming a citizen of the world. We wouldn't want you to forget that other half that's into Nation building while trying to spread Blue Bonnet on it with all their so called, good intentions.....which rarely come out in any solution.

    Also many Tea Partiers I know.....are more closer towards isolationism or dealing with direct threats. Not about loading up others with weapons and arms either.
    Excellent! Me likey.










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    Re: Should the US Raise Security Threat to the Nation at its Highest Level for Sept 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    As long as golf courses aren't being threatened, this president isn't engaged.

    Unfortunately we have no leader.
    Oh wow, two open dislikes, hates masculine women (use of derogatory term BUTCH) and also hates Obama, just from one little old poll.

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